Re: Re: Re: RE: more on 0'00", in 'For the Birds'

Yes, this description applies to One3 (*One3 = 4' 33" (0' 00") + )*
Rob
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Ed Crooks <[email protected]>wrote:

> I wonder if the version mentioned below is the one Cage talks about in
> 1990, printed in Retallack's MusiCage, p.77:
>
> Retallack asks Cage if he ever thought *4'33"* was ironic. Cage says:
>
> 'No, I just think of it as listening to the period of time when there
> aren't any sounds being produced. And so I listen to the sounds that come
> into the situation - whatever that is... Now I think of it more in relation
> to the world as a whole. And I have another form of it which brings the
> silence of the room up to the level of feedback but doesn't allow the
> feedback to be hear, only sensed, so that you realize that you're in an
> electronic situation that could be painful. But isn't, hmm? But could be.
> And in that highly electrified silence I then leave the stage and go and sit
> in the audience and experience it for an unmeasured length of time. And
> then, when I've had enough, I go back to the stage and that's it. What's in
> my mind - it might have some irony - but what I think I'm showing is that we
> have changed the environment, and that it's no longer... it's now a
> technological silence, hmm? that now silence includes technology. In a way
> that is not necessarily... good. That could involve, hmm? irony? Or
> something like criticism?'
>
> best,
> Ed Crooks
>
> University of York, Department of Music
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* David Miller <[email protected]>
> *To:* Dionisis Boukouvalas <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 October 2011, 23:47
> *Subject:* [silence] Re: RE: more on 0'00", in 'For the Birds'
>
> I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but there's also the very
> interesting One/3 (can't do superscript numbers here). The full title is
> One3 = 4' 33" (0' 00") + [treble clef]. This appears to be a one-sentence
> composition, unpublished? The text is "Arrange the soundsystem so that the
> whole hall is on the edge of feedback, without actually feeding back."
>
> Found in Andre Chaudron's worklist: http://www.johncage.info/index2.html.
>
> David M.
> Jamaica Plain, Mass.
>
> > From: [email protected]
> > Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:47:16 -0400
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [silence] more on 0'00", in 'For the Birds'
> >
> > Cage and Charles go on to talk about Cage's third 'silent' piece which
> > involves two or more people playing a game such as chess, with actions
> > again highly amplified. "A bridge or chess match, or any game at all, can
> > become a distinct—another essentially silent—musical work."Does this
> third
> > 'silent' piece exist as a published score? Perhaps this connects somehow
> > with Reunion (also 1968), although in that collaborative performance the
> > game players' actions were not amplified.
> >
> >
> > Undoubtedly. Cage would not repeat himself, like he did not repeat
> himself
> > passing from 4'33'' to 0'00''. So, 4'33'' is a transformation of
> "silence"
> > into sound (in fact bringing sound into focus), 0'00'' a transformation
> of
> > an action into sound, and "Reunion" a transformation (in fact, a
> > translation) of action(s) into other action(s) and sound(s). Makes
> perfect
> > sense. Or it's like "seeing" sound (which also reminds me of the silent
> > television of the last Europera).
>
>
>
>


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