Re: question re: The automatic minimum (see above) is two.
hans w. koch <[email protected]> Tue, 24 Apr 2018 09:05:52 +0200
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dear all, (i am a subscriber of the digest, hence i reply to the first mail in my = inbox, but read the others online), first, i am very thankful for all those candid answers to my humble = question! bills suggestion of a very literal reading also to mee seems the most = convincing, though i also do enjoy the allusion to bucky fuller which = andrew points out. and the more =E2=80=9Cpoetic=E2=80=9D interpretaions (refering more to = poiesis here) open up interesting trains of thought. thank you so much, best regards hans > Am 23.04.2018 um 14:40 schrieb David Miller = <[email protected]>: >=20 > Hello Hans, >=20 > An interesting question, and I won't pretend to have an authoritative = answer. What comes to mind about "two", though, is that the possibility = of relationship arises when there are two. Relationship and then = movement. Two eventually give rise to three, and then there's your new = universe. So it may not indicate dualism as much as the minimum = possibility for making a world. >=20 > But is that what Cage had in mind? Others may confirm or deny :-). >=20 > Warm regards, >=20 > David M. >=20 > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on = behalf of hans w. koch <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 3:42 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [silence] question re: The automatic minimum (see above) is = two. > =20 > dear all, >=20 > i might overlook something glaringly obvious, but anyway, i have a = question: >=20 > in hs text =E2=80=9Cexperimental music: doctrine=E2=80=9D, cage = writes: > Relevant action is theatrical (music [imaginary separation of hearing = from the other senses] does not exist), inclusive and intentionally = purposeless. Theatre is continually becoming that it is becoming; each = human being is at the best point for reception. Relevant response = (getting up in the morning and discovering oneself musician) (action, = art) can be made with any number (including none (none and number, like = silence and music, are unreal]) of sounds. The automatic minimum (see = above) is two. >=20 > now: what does that "The automatic minimum (see above) is two.=E2=80=9D = refer to? > in the paragraphs above the one quoted, cages seems to dismiss all = dichotomies, notably the one between sound and silence. > and yet here he seems getting back to that? > or does =E2=80=9Cautomatic=E2=80=9D here reference a kind of reflex? >=20 > thanks for your help and insights >=20 > hans >=20 >=20 > "Now I a fourfold vision see And a fourfold vision is given to me Tis = fourfold in my supreme delight And three fold in soft Beulahs night And = twofold Always. May God us keep =46rom Single vision & Newtons sleep." >=20 > =E2=80=94=E2=80=89Blake, Letter to Thomas Butt, 22 November 1802. = Quoted in Geoffrey Keynes (ed.), The Letters of William Blake(1956)