Re: Books or papers going into detail about Schoenberg and Cage?
Rob Haskins <[email protected]> Sat, 14 Jul 2018 16:35:04 +0000
| Newsgroups | gmane.music.john-cage |
|---|---|
| Message-ID | <CAHiZ-4np0YRjF=zZxx2L9245-vfwb6z9u1oG7hQnC3+hQbKSAA@mail.gmail.com> |
--0000000000005efab70570f82efb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for this, Sara! On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 4:34 PM Sara Haefeli <[email protected]> wrote: > In addition to Rob=E2=80=99s excellent suggestions there is also this art= icle by > Danny Jenkins. It is more about Schoenberg=E2=80=99s public lectures, but= Cage > attended those lectures and his comments are recorded in notes taken at t= he > time. I think Schoenberg=E2=80=99s commitment to public musicology is int= eresting > and perhaps had a significant influence on the young Cage. > > > > > > Sara Haefeli, Ph.D. > Associate Professor > School of Music > Whalen Center for Music 2321 > > Ithaca College > 953 Danby Rd. | Ithaca, NY 14850 > (607) 274-1629 > [email protected] | ithaca.edu/music > > On Jul 13, 2018, at 6:32 PM, David Bellows <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I was wondering if anyone knows of any books or papers that go into > critical detail concerning Cage's relationship with Schoenberg. We > have Cage's words and anecdotes but I haven't yet found a critical > analysis of their relationship. > > Like what did Schoenberg really think of Cage. Or what were > Schoenberg's classes at USC and UCLA really like (interviews with > other students?). > > Thanks, > Dave Bellows > > > --=20 Rob Haskins, D.M.A., Ph.D. Professor of Music College of Liberal Arts University of New Hampshire M-105, Paul Creative Arts Center 30 Academic Way Durham, NH 03824 603-862-3987 (office) 603-862-3155 (fax) <http://unh.edu/music/> <http://robhaskins.net> --0000000000005efab70570f82efb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for this, Sara!<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu= ote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 4:34 PM Sara Haefeli <<a h= ref=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></= div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef= t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div> <div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">In addition to Rob=E2=80=99s excellent = suggestions there is also this article by Danny Jenkins. It is more about S= choenberg=E2=80=99s public lectures, but Cage attended those lectures and h= is comments are recorded in notes taken at the time. I think Schoenberg=E2=80=99s commitment to public musicology is = interesting and perhaps had a significant influence on the young Cage. <div><br> </div> <div><br> <div><br> </div> <div>=C2=A0=C2=A0</div> </div> </div> <div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"> <div> <div><br> <div> <div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-= indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wra= p:break-word"> <span class=3D"m_-100537960860298742x_Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-col= lapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"> <div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><span class=3D"m_-100537960860298742x_A= pple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-fa= mily:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;let= ter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;w= hite-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px"> <div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><span class=3D"m_-100537960860298742x_A= pple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-fa= mily:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;let= ter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;w= hite-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px"> <div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><span class=3D"m_-100537960860298742x_A= pple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-fa= mily:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;let= ter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;w= hite-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px"> <div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><span class=3D"m_-100537960860298742x_A= pple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-fa= mily:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;let= ter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;w= hite-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px"> <div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Sara Haefeli, Ph.D.<br> Associate Professor=C2=A0</div> <div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">School of Music<br> Whalen Center for Music=C2=A02321</div> <div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">=C2=A0</div> <div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Ithaca College<br> 953 Danby Rd. =C2=A0| =C2=A0Ithaca, NY 14850</div> <div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">(607) 274-1629<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]= u</a> =C2=A0| =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://ithaca.edu/music" target=3D"_blank">i= thaca.edu/music</a></div> </span></div> </span></div> </span></div> </span></div> </span></div> </div> <br> <div> <blockquote type=3D"cite"> <div>On Jul 13, 2018, at 6:32 PM, David Bellows <<a href=3D"mailto:daveb= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:</d= iv> <br class=3D"m_-100537960860298742x_Apple-interchange-newline"> <div>Hello everyone,<br> <br> I was wondering if anyone knows of any books or papers that go into<br> critical detail concerning Cage's relationship with Schoenberg. We<br> have Cage's words and anecdotes but I haven't yet found a critical<= br> analysis of their relationship.<br> <br> Like what did Schoenberg really think of Cage. Or what were<br> Schoenberg's classes at USC and UCLA really like (interviews with<br> other students?).<br> <br> Thanks,<br> Dave Bellows<br> </div> </blockquote> </div> <br> </div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g= mail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><d= iv dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Rob Haskins, D.M.A., Ph.D.<br>Professo= r=C2=A0of Music</div><div dir=3D"ltr">College of Liberal Arts<br>University= of New Hampshire<br>M-105, Paul Creative Arts Center<br>30 Academic Way<br= >Durham, NH 03824<br>603-862-3987 (office)<br>603-862-3155 (fax)<br><<a = href=3D"http://unh.edu/music/" target=3D"_blank">http://unh.edu/music/</a>&= gt;<br><<a href=3D"http://robhaskins.net" target=3D"_blank">http://robha= skins.net</a>></div></div></div></div></div></div> --0000000000005efab70570f82efb--