Re: Questions on mesostics and the software Cage used
Rod Stasick <[email protected]> Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:16:29 -0600
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On Jan 14, 2019, at 13:17, David Bellows <[email protected]> = wrote: The other point is that once you have two spine words are the = wing words chosen randomly from all the valid words between them? = Right now my software chooses up to 11 words before and after each spine = word (meeting the mesostic rules) and then, depending on the option = chosen, randomly chooses from those words. If I=E2=80=99m reading your comment correctly, this was the idea that = Nicki Hoffman had,=20 at first, implemented incorrectly, so I wouldn=E2=80=99t try doing that = hack on your software.=20 Think of the =E2=80=9Cwing words=E2=80=9D as simply extensions of what = has come before the mesoletter=20 and another extension of what has come after the mesoletter. You can = also think of the=20 words as a branch of the mesotree that is just extended left or right of = the mesoletter:=20 some are short branches, and some are longer ones - each keeping within = the confines=20 of the mesorules. There are no breaks in a branch, for instance, where = you can cut out=20 middle segments and so on. An example using your words (and only the first two letters of your = name): =E2=80=9C...I'm definitely trying to be as accurate to Cage as I can and especially so once he was using computers to assist the process...=E2=80=9D= i=E2=80=99m Definitely trying to be As accurate to cage as i can [I hope this lines up, but I think you=E2=80=99ll get it]. Anyway, if you look at the second line, you aren=E2=80=99t allowed to pick and choose which words you want from the branch. For example you can=E2=80=99t decide to say: =E2=80=9Cto be As accurate as i can=E2=80=9D nor can you say: =E2=80=9Cto be As cage as i can=E2=80=9D or any variation where you are choosing to jump around. Also, notice:=20 You can extend your branches to varying lengths as long as the words are connected in a string, so with the above mini-mesostic you can have either of these versions i=E2=80=99m Definitely trying to be As accurate to cage as i can i=E2=80=99m Definitely trying to be As accurate to cage as i can My comment concerning the limits of the programming language was more about how you can=E2=80=99t rely on the random number generator to decide something that may actually be an aesthetic decision about =E2=80=9Cwing word" lengths. Whether there are 7 more words or only one = word in=20 the "branch=E2=80=9D is something that might better be decided by a = choice-deciding brain. hope this helps, Rod ************* Now Playing: =E2=80=8CEdward Avis=E2=80=8C - Evening in Birdland from: =E2=80=8CEcstatic & Wingless: Bird-Imitation on Four Continents, Ca. = 1910-44=E2=80=8C=