Re: Question about Feldman's graph notation and song lyrics

"Goldstein, Louis" <[email protected]> Thu, 1 Aug 2019 20:34:53 -0400
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Just a comment.  Poor programming skills shouldn't be a concern.  Wouldn't
this be easier to write out by hand?

Louie

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 6:03 PM David Bellows <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I know this isn't the Morton Feldman mail list but I was hoping
> someone here might be able to help anyway.
>
> I'm doing a project where I generate some music using something that
> is based on Feldman's graph notation where the location of a box
> (high, medium or low) indicates the pitch range and the width
> indicates duration.
>
> What I'm wondering is if he ever used this notation for vocal works
> and what it looked like? My piece is for a vocalist using this
> notation. I've come up with a solution but it doesn't feel ideal so I
> was hoping Feldman might have done something better.
>
> Alternatively, if anyone has suggestions for how to include the lyrics
> into the score I'm all ears. I'm attaching my current approach. The
> lyrics are in the boxes (often they extend past them). The height of
> the text within the box does not mean anything and is done solely for
> readability when the durations end up being really short. So the
> lyrics cycle through from top to middle to bottom (starting over at
> each new line) which hopefully helps the vocalist figure out what
> comes next.
>
> And I know my version of Feldman's notation doesn't look exactly like
> his but I am limited by my poor programming skills and this was the
> best I could do that I could handle being generated automatically
> using a wide variety of parameters.
>
> The lyrics are from a Gertrude Stein poetry generator I created. And
> Connor Gibbs is the person who is going to sing this.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave Bellows
> www.platonicmusicengine.com
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Just a comment.=C2=A0 Poor programming skills shouldn&#39;=
t be a concern.=C2=A0 Wouldn&#39;t this be easier to write out by hand?<div=
><br></div><div>Louie</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 6:03 PM David Bellows &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello everyo=
ne,<br>
<br>
I know this isn&#39;t the Morton Feldman mail list but I was hoping<br>
someone here might be able to help anyway.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m doing a project where I generate some music using something that<br=
>
is based on Feldman&#39;s graph notation where the location of a box<br>
(high, medium or low) indicates the pitch range and the width<br>
indicates duration.<br>
<br>
What I&#39;m wondering is if he ever used this notation for vocal works<br>
and what it looked like? My piece is for a vocalist using this<br>
notation. I&#39;ve come up with a solution but it doesn&#39;t feel ideal so=
 I<br>
was hoping Feldman might have done something better.<br>
<br>
Alternatively, if anyone has suggestions for how to include the lyrics<br>
into the score I&#39;m all ears. I&#39;m attaching my current approach. The=
<br>
lyrics are in the boxes (often they extend past them). The height of<br>
the text within the box does not mean anything and is done solely for<br>
readability when the durations end up being really short. So the<br>
lyrics cycle through from top to middle to bottom (starting over at<br>
each new line) which hopefully helps the vocalist figure out what<br>
comes next.<br>
<br>
And I know my version of Feldman&#39;s notation doesn&#39;t look exactly li=
ke<br>
his but I am limited by my poor programming skills and this was the<br>
best I could do that I could handle being generated automatically<br>
using a wide variety of parameters.<br>
<br>
The lyrics are from a Gertrude Stein poetry generator I created. And<br>
Connor Gibbs is the person who is going to sing this.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Dave Bellows<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.platonicmusicengine.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D=
"_blank">www.platonicmusicengine.com</a><br>
</blockquote></div>

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