Re: plunderphonics
AHF <[email protected]> Thu, 9 Jan 2020 17:27:54 +0000
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--Apple-Mail=_09816C0C-B065-405B-B267-4B3B8D822B33 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I knew John Oswald from my SONDE days, so when I heard about his being = in trouble with Michael Jackson=E2=80=99s crew, I mentioned it to John = one day. We didn=E2=80=99t go into plunderphonics per se. Collage, on the other hand, he considered a foundational 20th century = form. As always, with Cage, chance operations, and the dodge from intention, = is fundamental. So Oswald=E2=80=99s intentionality sets plunderphonics = someplace else. (This last statement is my interpretation, not = Cage=E2=80=99s). Cheers. Andrew Culver > On Jan 9, 2020, at 5:21 AM, chris cutler <[email protected]> wrote: >=20 > i can=E2=80=99t find any reference but=20 > is anyone aware of any evidence that cage was aware of this > notion or ever made any comment about it? >=20 > thanks >=20 > c >=20 >=20 > Chris Cutler=20 >=20 > http://rwm.macba.cat/en/probes_tag = <http://rwm.macba.cat/en/probes_tag> --Apple-Mail=_09816C0C-B065-405B-B267-4B3B8D822B33 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I = knew John Oswald from my SONDE days, so when I heard about his being in = trouble with Michael Jackson=E2=80=99s crew, I mentioned it to John one = day. We didn=E2=80=99t go into plunderphonics per se.<div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Collage, on the other hand, he = considered a foundational 20th century form.</div><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">As always, with Cage, chance = operations, and the dodge from intention, is fundamental. So Oswald=E2=80=99= s intentionality sets plunderphonics someplace else. (This last = statement is my interpretation, not Cage=E2=80=99s).</div><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Cheers.</div><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Andrew Culver</div><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" = class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan 9, 2020, at 5:21 AM, chris cutler = <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = class=3D"">[email protected]</a>> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta = http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html charset=3Dutf-8" = class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: = space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">i can=E2=80=99t = find any reference but <div class=3D"">is anyone aware of any = evidence that cage was aware of this<div class=3D"">notion or ever made = any comment about it?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">thanks</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">c</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: = break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D""><div class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div= class=3D"">Chris Cutler </div><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><a = href=3D"http://rwm.macba.cat/en/probes_tag" = class=3D"">http://rwm.macba.cat/en/probes_tag</a></div></div> </div> <br class=3D""></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br = class=3D""></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_09816C0C-B065-405B-B267-4B3B8D822B33--