Re: Live shows as downloads

I  preferred  Super Deluxe/ Bass and Drums as well.

I am glad that the MOD store does do FLAC downloads, as does Rarenoise,
mainly because I am too impatient to wait and, with US postage rates going
though the roof, it is good option.

There has been a good amount of Bill Laswell recently, but it is
good know there is more coming. Somebody that eclectic and prolific can't
please everybody all the time, but the quality has been good overall.


On 9 April 2013 15:46, David Brunelle <[email protected]> wrote:

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> That's funny...I enjoy them both but actually lean the other way...a bit
> towards the Bass & Drums release. I thought it also showed the renewed
> vigor in Bill's playing of late. As with all the Japanese releases over the
> years, it IS a shame that they're not more accessible, though these days
> certainly the digital option is better than nothing. Seems like few labels
> make deals with resellers who will deal in FLAC though, so unless you're
> selling them yourself...
>
> The Bass & Drums show was from Super Deluxe and was outside the scope of
> an actual Tokyo Rotation event, but maybe one day maybe we'll get lucky and
> get some of the Tokyo Rotation stuff officially. As you pointed out (in
> some respect) a lot of the shows over the years have been available on Dime
> and such. I enjoy almost all of them - I agree with you too in that a lot
> of times everything gels and it's not just improv with no direction. Which
> is why they work. All good food for thought when it comes to being able to
> present things through the MOD Tech store. Though sometimes it's hard to
> see from a distance, these things aren't always so easy as "hey, we have
> this, let's sell it" and a day later there it is. because this is a full-on
> label with distribution partners there are logistics involved. And of
> course, Bill has a million balls in the air so there's that as well.
>
> FWIW - so everyone chomping at the bit knows this is not the norm, some
> other things have cropped up at the beginning of this year so all the
> intended doings have been pushed back as far as timetables go. Hopefully
> within the next month or two things will be back to a normal current and
> all the upcoming goodies will be on a schedule. So I apologize for small
> teasers and then the inability to actually give you more concrete info on
> what's to come! but believe me....in addition to what's currently being
> worked on, there's already a batch of stuff in the can.
>
>
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> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:53 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> As was noted Kai was done in studio: Laz + 3 Japanese guys I'm not
>> familiar with (collectively known as Kuuru Crew I think?).   Bass & Drums
>> was from a live show (Laz, Nakamura, Yamaki). The latter was improv & I
>> suspect the other was as well though obviously they had more opportunity to
>> tweak/mold the results. I like both & maybe Kai *more. *For some reason
>> the Tokyo Rotation improvs have usually turned out well IMO - actually
>> "gel-ing" & "constructing" nice grooves rather than just wild playing in
>> different directions. Not necessarily every day listening stuff though!
>> I've not found either in flac.  I try to avoid mp3's whenever possible.
>> But thanks for the links
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>> From: Jonathan Smith <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [laswell] Live shows as downloads
>> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:38:46 +0800
>>
>>
>>  I am confused about *Kai*it seems. There was a live show floating about
>> with�similar�material-- I thought they were the same but I must
>> be��mistaken.�
>>
>> Kai is Emusic for example, but only MP3. It used to be cheaper.
>>
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>> http://www.emusic.com/album/bill-laswellmuneomi-senjuyoshio-otanimanabu-muratakuruucrew/kaikonton/12487173/
>>
>> Tradebit, a reseller, has it for *much less!*
>>
>>
>> http://www.tradebit.com/mp3-artist/987032/bill-laswellmuneomi-senjuyoshio-otanimanabu-muratakuruucrew
>>
>>
>> On 9 April 2013 04:56, Dave Brunelle <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> �
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>>> I see what you mean - though Kai was done in studio.�
>>>
>>> With those also though, they were available digitally here in the US
>>> (maybe still are? though possibly not as FLAC) so those labels had
>>> agreements for other territories than Japan presumably (and I speculate on
>>> some of it as these are matters I am not part of).�
>>>
>>> Of course rights and clearances are always issues, but I would think
>>> (again - speculation and my own personal opinion) that particularly with
>>> the people Bill has played with for years, that's not such a hard thing to
>>> sort out.�
>>>
>>> I agree that hopefully one day we're able to bring you some live
>>> material as there are certainly great things on tape (so to speak). But
>>> again...time, time, time. Oz also, one presumes based on his current doings
>>> at Prairie Sun is also quite busy. And as much as anything would
>>> undoubtedly be better than the bootlegs floating around, I don't think any
>>> of the musicians involved would want to release things willy nilly, no
>>> matter how much we may want it!
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Apr 8, 2013, at 8:34 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> �
>>>
>>>
>>> Specifically it was the Kai: Konton & Laz/Nakamura/Yamaki: Bass & Drum
>>> P-Vine Japan releases were tend to be hard to find as well as pricey that
>>> made me think of them being offered as downloads as well.� The recordings
>>> were done in those cases. I also expected Oz would be around on many live
>>> dates, etc.� I for one wouldn't be picky about their quality per se as far
>>> as mix/master, etc etc.�� However, I do see where rights/clearances (esp. a
>>> label release as in P-Vine vs. the same material being made available as
>>> download) could get complicated. Although with a solo show (Koyaanisqatsi),
>>> Material & MoD that should be less of an issue presumably.
>>>
>>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>>> From: "Dave @ M.O.D. Technologies" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [laswell] Live shows as downloads
>>> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 21:02:00 -0400
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> �
>>>  This is something that was discussed in the past.�
>>> �
>>> Part of the limitation was that in order for it to be done 'right',
>>> there would need to be some time spent with the recordings (whether mixing,
>>> mastering or what have you) and that's something Bill didn't have time for.
>>> Which would leave it to someone like Bob Musso who also has a lot on his
>>> plate.�
>>> �
>>> In short though, nothing is ever off the table.�
>>>
>>> �
>>> *************
>>> Dave Brunelle
>>> MOD Technologies
>>> http://mod-technologies.com/
>>>
>>> On Apr 7, 2013, at 8:43 PM, "piikea2007" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  �
>>>
>>> It's occurred to me now that Bill has the MOD website/store it could
>>> also offer recordings of his various live shows solely as downloads (Flac
>>> &/or mp3). He certainly has the expertise & people around him to do so at a
>>> pretty low cost. How much could it cost to host more sound files on the
>>> site along with the official release ones? Especially given the relatively
>>> fewer official cd releases in recent years. A "Beat the Boots" type thing
>>> w/o the cost of their physically released. As is he only earned money from
>>> the individual shows & this would be a way to earn a little "extra" from
>>> having done them. Frisell & many others currently do this.
>>>
>>> I could understand if he feels the live shows are "test grounds" or
>>> experiments that he'd rather not put out there but to my mind its a damn
>>> shame to have so much great Material only heard/seen by those present at
>>> the shows (or sometimes audience recordings). Unless you live in Japan or
>>> Europe there's not that many Laz live shows to get to!
>>>
>>> Seems reasonable to me but what do I know?
>>>
>>> �
>>>
>>> �
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