Re: Live shows as downloads

Yeah - I can understand that feeling. And since Nicky Skopelitis stepped away, yes....guitar does not seem to be as much of the equation anymore. Those two releases were quality stuff though. I really need to pull them out more now that you make me think about them. 

TR as a moniker probably has confused things too....while there were the actual 'festivals' (or whatever you want to call them), it has been applied to other projects or shows that share a vibe. But as sort of an umbrella term as opposed to being part of what we think of as TR. 


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On Apr 9, 2013, at 9:52 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I def agree about Bill's playing on Bass & Drums. I think the appeal of Kai to me was just the  "newness" of not having heard Bill with these guys before. I've only heard it once so that was my "off top of my head" assessment. I do like guitar too which has been missing alot in recent years.
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> I thought the Tokyo Rotation connection didn't seem right but saw a promo poster somewhere (online) stating: "as part of TR" or something to that effect.
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> From: David Brunelle <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [laswell] Live shows as downloads
> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:46:58 -0400
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> That's funny...I enjoy them both but actually lean the other way...a bit towards the Bass & Drums release. I thought it also showed the renewed vigor in Bill's playing of late. As with all the Japanese releases over the years, it IS a shame that they're not more accessible, though these days certainly the digital option is better than nothing. Seems like few labels make deals with resellers who will deal in FLAC though, so unless you're selling them yourself...
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> The Bass & Drums show was from Super Deluxe and was outside the scope of an actual Tokyo Rotation event, but maybe one day maybe we'll get lucky and get some of the Tokyo Rotation stuff officially. As you pointed out (in some respect) a lot of the shows over the years have been available on Dime and such. I enjoy almost all of them - I agree with you too in that a lot of times everything gels and it's not just improv with no direction. Which is why they work. All good food for thought when it comes to being able to present things through the MOD Tech store. Though sometimes it's hard to see from a distance, these things aren't always so easy as "hey, we have this, let's sell it" and a day later there it is. because this is a full-on label with distribution partners there are logistics involved. And of course, Bill has a million balls in the air so there's that as well.
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> FWIW - so everyone chomping at the bit knows this is not the norm, some other things have cropped up at the beginning of this year so all the intended doings have been pushed back as far as timetables go. Hopefully within the next month or two things will be back to a normal current and all the upcoming goodies will be on a schedule. So I apologize for small teasers and then the inability to actually give you more concrete info on what's to come! but believe me....in addition to what's currently being worked on, there's already a batch of stuff in the can.
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> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:53 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> As was noted Kai was done in studio: Laz + 3 Japanese guys I'm not familiar with (collectively known as Kuuru Crew I think?).   Bass & Drums was from a live show (Laz, Nakamura, Yamaki). The latter was improv & I suspect the other was as well though obviously they had more opportunity to tweak/mold the results. I like both & maybe Kai more. For some reason the Tokyo Rotation improvs have usually turned out well IMO - actually "gel-ing" & "constructing" nice grooves rather than just wild playing in different directions. Not necessarily every day listening stuff though!   I've not found either in flac.  I try to avoid mp3's whenever possible.  But thanks for the links
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>> From: Jonathan Smith <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [laswell] Live shows as downloads
>> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:38:46 +0800
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>> I am confused about Kaiit seems. There was a live show floating about with�similar�material-- I thought they were the same but I must be��mistaken.�
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>> Kai is Emusic for example, but only MP3. It used to be cheaper.
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>> http://www.emusic.com/album/bill-laswellmuneomi-senjuyoshio-otanimanabu-muratakuruucrew/kaikonton/12487173/
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>> Tradebit, a reseller, has it for much less!
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>> http://www.tradebit.com/mp3-artist/987032/bill-laswellmuneomi-senjuyoshio-otanimanabu-muratakuruucrew
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>> On 9 April 2013 04:56, Dave Brunelle <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> I see what you mean - though Kai was done in studio.�
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>>> With those also though, they were available digitally here in the US (maybe still are? though possibly not as FLAC) so those labels had agreements for other territories than Japan presumably (and I speculate on some of it as these are matters I am not part of).�
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>>> Of course rights and clearances are always issues, but I would think (again - speculation and my own personal opinion) that particularly with the people Bill has played with for years, that's not such a hard thing to sort out.�
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>>> I agree that hopefully one day we're able to bring you some live material as there are certainly great things on tape (so to speak). But again...time, time, time. Oz also, one presumes based on his current doings at Prairie Sun is also quite busy. And as much as anything would undoubtedly be better than the bootlegs floating around, I don't think any of the musicians involved would want to release things willy nilly, no matter how much we may want it!
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>>> On Apr 8, 2013, at 8:34 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> Specifically it was the Kai: Konton & Laz/Nakamura/Yamaki: Bass & Drum P-Vine Japan releases were tend to be hard to find as well as pricey that made me think of them being offered as downloads as well.� The recordings were done in those cases. I also expected Oz would be around on many live dates, etc.� I for one wouldn't be picky about their quality per se as far as mix/master, etc etc.�� However, I do see where rights/clearances (esp. a label release as in P-Vine vs. the same material being made available as download) could get complicated. Although with a solo show (Koyaanisqatsi), Material & MoD that should be less of an issue presumably. 
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>>> From: "Dave @ M.O.D. Technologies" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [laswell] Live shows as downloads
>>> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 21:02:00 -0400
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>>> This is something that was discussed in the past.�
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>>> Part of the limitation was that in order for it to be done 'right', there would need to be some time spent with the recordings (whether mixing, mastering or what have you) and that's something Bill didn't have time for. Which would leave it to someone like Bob Musso who also has a lot on his plate.�
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>>> In short though, nothing is ever off the table.�
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>>> On Apr 7, 2013, at 8:43 PM, "piikea2007" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> It's occurred to me now that Bill has the MOD website/store it could also offer recordings of his various live shows solely as downloads (Flac &/or mp3). He certainly has the expertise & people around him to do so at a pretty low cost. How much could it cost to host more sound files on the site along with the official release ones? Especially given the relatively fewer official cd releases in recent years. A "Beat the Boots" type thing w/o the cost of their physically released. As is he only earned money from the individual shows & this would be a way to earn a little "extra" from having done them. Frisell & many others currently do this.
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>>> I could understand if he feels the live shows are "test grounds" or experiments that he'd rather not put out there but to my mind its a damn shame to have so much great Material only heard/seen by those present at the shows (or sometimes audience recordings). Unless you live in Japan or Europe there's not that many Laz live shows to get to!
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>>> Seems reasonable to me but what do I know?
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