Re: Live shows as downloads

"carlospln" <[email protected]> Tue, 07 May 2013 05:26:38 -0000
Newsgroups	gmane.music.laswell
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Dave,

Any chance of getting the music from that (famous) 2005 PBS show in Chicago released? (Pete Cosey, Ustad Sultan Khan, etc).  Or is that owned by the network?

Thanks

--- In [email protected], David Brunelle <dave@...> wrote:
>
> That's funny...I enjoy them both but actually lean the other way...a bit
> towards the Bass & Drums release. I thought it also showed the renewed
> vigor in Bill's playing of late. As with all the Japanese releases over the
> years, it IS a shame that they're not more accessible, though these days
> certainly the digital option is better than nothing. Seems like few labels
> make deals with resellers who will deal in FLAC though, so unless you're
> selling them yourself...
> 
> The Bass & Drums show was from Super Deluxe and was outside the scope of an
> actual Tokyo Rotation event, but maybe one day maybe we'll get lucky and
> get some of the Tokyo Rotation stuff officially. As you pointed out (in
> some respect) a lot of the shows over the years have been available on Dime
> and such. I enjoy almost all of them - I agree with you too in that a lot
> of times everything gels and it's not just improv with no direction. Which
> is why they work. All good food for thought when it comes to being able to
> present things through the MOD Tech store. Though sometimes it's hard to
> see from a distance, these things aren't always so easy as "hey, we have
> this, let's sell it" and a day later there it is. because this is a full-on
> label with distribution partners there are logistics involved. And of
> course, Bill has a million balls in the air so there's that as well.
> 
> FWIW - so everyone chomping at the bit knows this is not the norm, some
> other things have cropped up at the beginning of this year so all the
> intended doings have been pushed back as far as timetables go. Hopefully
> within the next month or two things will be back to a normal current and
> all the upcoming goodies will be on a schedule. So I apologize for small
> teasers and then the inability to actually give you more concrete info on
> what's to come! but believe me....in addition to what's currently being
> worked on, there's already a batch of stuff in the can.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:53 AM, wtmdmm@... <wtmdmm@...> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > As was noted Kai was done in studio: Laz + 3 Japanese guys I'm not
> > familiar with (collectively known as Kuuru Crew I think?).   Bass & Drums
> > was from a live show (Laz, Nakamura, Yamaki). The latter was improv & I
> > suspect the other was as well though obviously they had more opportunity to
> > tweak/mold the results. I like both & maybe Kai *more. *For some reason
> > the Tokyo Rotation improvs have usually turned out well IMO - actually
> > "gel-ing" & "constructing" nice grooves rather than just wild playing in
> > different directions. Not necessarily every day listening stuff though!
> > I've not found either in flac.  I try to avoid mp3's whenever possible.
> > But thanks for the links
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: Jonathan Smith <smithjm77x7@...>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [laswell] Live shows as downloads
> > Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:38:46 +0800
> >
> >
> >  I am confused about *Kai*it seems. There was a live show floating about
> > withï¿½similarï¿½material-- I thought they were the same but I must
> > beï¿½ï¿½mistaken.ï¿½
> >
> > Kai is Emusic for example, but only MP3. It used to be cheaper.
> >
> >
> > http://www.emusic.com/album/bill-laswellmuneomi-senjuyoshio-otanimanabu-muratakuruucrew/kaikonton/12487173/
> >
> > Tradebit, a reseller, has it for *much less!*
> >
> >
> > http://www.tradebit.com/mp3-artist/987032/bill-laswellmuneomi-senjuyoshio-otanimanabu-muratakuruucrew
> >
> >
> > On 9 April 2013 04:56, Dave Brunelle <dave.brunelle@...> wrote:
> >
> >> ï¿½
> >>
> >>
> >> I see what you mean - though Kai was done in studio.ï¿½
> >>
> >> With those also though, they were available digitally here in the US
> >> (maybe still are? though possibly not as FLAC) so those labels had
> >> agreements for other territories than Japan presumably (and I speculate on
> >> some of it as these are matters I am not part of).ï¿½
> >>
> >> Of course rights and clearances are always issues, but I would think
> >> (again - speculation and my own personal opinion) that particularly with
> >> the people Bill has played with for years, that's not such a hard thing to
> >> sort out.ï¿½
> >>
> >> I agree that hopefully one day we're able to bring you some live material
> >> as there are certainly great things on tape (so to speak). But
> >> again...time, time, time. Oz also, one presumes based on his current doings
> >> at Prairie Sun is also quite busy. And as much as anything would
> >> undoubtedly be better than the bootlegs floating around, I don't think any
> >> of the musicians involved would want to release things willy nilly, no
> >> matter how much we may want it!
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> On Apr 8, 2013, at 8:34 PM, "wtmdmm@..." <wtmdmm@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> ï¿½
> >>
> >>
> >> Specifically it was the Kai: Konton & Laz/Nakamura/Yamaki: Bass & Drum
> >> P-Vine Japan releases were tend to be hard to find as well as pricey that
> >> made me think of them being offered as downloads as well.ï¿½ The recordings
> >> were done in those cases. I also expected Oz would be around on many live
> >> dates, etc.ï¿½ I for one wouldn't be picky about their quality per se as far
> >> as mix/master, etc etc.ï¿½ï¿½ However, I do see where rights/clearances (esp. a
> >> label release as in P-Vine vs. the same material being made available as
> >> download) could get complicated. Although with a solo show (Koyaanisqatsi),
> >> Material & MoD that should be less of an issue presumably.
> >>
> >> ---------- Original Message ----------
> >> From: "Dave @ M.O.D. Technologies" <dave@...>
> >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: [laswell] Live shows as downloads
> >> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 21:02:00 -0400
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ï¿½
> >>  This is something that was discussed in the past.ï¿½
> >> ï¿½
> >> Part of the limitation was that in order for it to be done 'right', there
> >> would need to be some time spent with the recordings (whether mixing,
> >> mastering or what have you) and that's something Bill didn't have time for.
> >> Which would leave it to someone like Bob Musso who also has a lot on his
> >> plate.ï¿½
> >> ï¿½
> >> In short though, nothing is ever off the table.ï¿½
> >>
> >> ï¿½
> >> *************
> >> Dave Brunelle
> >> MOD Technologies
> >> http://mod-technologies.com/
> >>
> >> On Apr 7, 2013, at 8:43 PM, "piikea2007" <wtmdmm@...> wrote:
> >>
> >>  ï¿½
> >>
> >> It's occurred to me now that Bill has the MOD website/store it could also
> >> offer recordings of his various live shows solely as downloads (Flac &/or
> >> mp3). He certainly has the expertise & people around him to do so at a
> >> pretty low cost. How much could it cost to host more sound files on the
> >> site along with the official release ones? Especially given the relatively
> >> fewer official cd releases in recent years. A "Beat the Boots" type thing
> >> w/o the cost of their physically released. As is he only earned money from
> >> the individual shows & this would be a way to earn a little "extra" from
> >> having done them. Frisell & many others currently do this.
> >>
> >> I could understand if he feels the live shows are "test grounds" or
> >> experiments that he'd rather not put out there but to my mind its a damn
> >> shame to have so much great Material only heard/seen by those present at
> >> the shows (or sometimes audience recordings). Unless you live in Japan or
> >> Europe there's not that many Laz live shows to get to!
> >>
> >> Seems reasonable to me but what do I know?
> >>
> >> ï¿½
> >>
> >> ï¿½
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
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> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
>  Dave Brunelle
> M.O.D. Technologies
> dave@...
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