Re: Re: Live shows as downloads

I have often thought about that one too! :)


On 14 May 2013 03:03, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

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> That DVD would be most welcome if it ever happens.
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: David Brunelle <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [laswell] Re: Live shows as downloads
> Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 13:19:59 -0400
>
>
> Sorry - don't think I ever responded...
> �
> I'll try and ask...My guess (particularly as the DVD was controlled by
> PBS) is that yeah...it's owned by them. With so much on the plate, I have a
> feeling that it's not a priority for Bill at this point either. Any
> recording would be nice of the full show, but I would love to see the full
> release on DVD. Bill did mix it in 5.1 too I imagine in the eventuality
> that PBS did release it...
> �
> More news soon on the possibility of other NYC shows in the near future.
> �
> Dave
>
> �
> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:26 AM, carlospln <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> �
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> Any chance of getting the music from that (famous) 2005 PBS show in
>> Chicago released? (Pete Cosey, Ustad Sultan Khan, etc). Or is that owned by
>> the network?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --- In [email protected], David Brunelle <dave@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > That's funny...I enjoy them both but actually lean the other way...a bit
>> > towards the Bass & Drums release. I thought it also showed the renewed
>> > vigor in Bill's playing of late. As with all the Japanese releases over
>> the
>> > years, it IS a shame that they're not more accessible, though these days
>> > certainly the digital option is better than nothing. Seems like few
>> labels
>> > make deals with resellers who will deal in FLAC though, so unless you're
>> > selling them yourself...
>> >
>> > The Bass & Drums show was from Super Deluxe and was outside the scope
>> of an
>> > actual Tokyo Rotation event, but maybe one day maybe we'll get lucky and
>> > get some of the Tokyo Rotation stuff officially. As you pointed out (in
>> > some respect) a lot of the shows over the years have been available on
>> Dime
>> > and such. I enjoy almost all of them - I agree with you too in that a
>> lot
>> > of times everything gels and it's not just improv with no direction.
>> Which
>> > is why they work. All good food for thought when it comes to being able
>> to
>> > present things through the MOD Tech store. Though sometimes it's hard to
>> > see from a distance, these things aren't always so easy as "hey, we have
>> > this, let's sell it" and a day later there it is. because this is a
>> full-on
>> > label with distribution partners there are logistics involved. And of
>> > course, Bill has a million balls in the air so there's that as well.
>> >
>> > FWIW - so everyone chomping at the bit knows this is not the norm, some
>> > other things have cropped up at the beginning of this year so all the
>> > intended doings have been pushed back as far as timetables go. Hopefully
>> > within the next month or two things will be back to a normal current and
>> > all the upcoming goodies will be on a schedule. So I apologize for small
>> > teasers and then the inability to actually give you more concrete info
>> on
>> > what's to come! but believe me....in addition to what's currently being
>> > worked on, there's already a batch of stuff in the can.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:53 AM, wtmdmm@... <wtmdmm@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > > **
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > As was noted Kai was done in studio: Laz + 3 Japanese guys I'm not
>> > > familiar with (collectively known as Kuuru Crew I think?). Bass &
>> Drums
>> > > was from a live show (Laz, Nakamura, Yamaki). The latter was improv &
>> I
>> > > suspect the other was as well though obviously they had more
>> opportunity to
>> > > tweak/mold the results. I like both & maybe Kai *more. *For some
>> reason
>> > > the Tokyo Rotation improvs have usually turned out well IMO - actually
>> > > "gel-ing" & "constructing" nice grooves rather than just wild playing
>> in
>> > > different directions. Not necessarily every day listening stuff
>> though!
>> > > I've not found either in flac. I try to avoid mp3's whenever possible.
>> > > But thanks for the links
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ---------- Original Message ----------
>> > > From: Jonathan Smith <smithjm77x7@...>
>> > > To: [email protected]
>> > > Subject: Re: [laswell] Live shows as downloads
>> > > Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:38:46 +0800
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I am confused about *Kai*it seems. There was a live show floating
>> about
>> > > with�similar�material-- I thought they were the same but I must
>> > > be��mistaken.�
>>
>> > >
>> > > Kai is Emusic for example, but only MP3. It used to be cheaper.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> http://www.emusic.com/album/bill-laswellmuneomi-senjuyoshio-otanimanabu-muratakuruucrew/kaikonton/12487173/
>> > >
>> > > Tradebit, a reseller, has it for *much less!*
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> http://www.tradebit.com/mp3-artist/987032/bill-laswellmuneomi-senjuyoshio-otanimanabu-muratakuruucrew
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 9 April 2013 04:56, Dave Brunelle <dave.brunelle@...> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> �
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> I see what you mean - though Kai was done in studio.�
>>
>> > >>
>> > >> With those also though, they were available digitally here in the US
>> > >> (maybe still are? though possibly not as FLAC) so those labels had
>> > >> agreements for other territories than Japan presumably (and I
>> speculate on
>>  > >> some of it as these are matters I am not part of).�
>>
>> > >>
>> > >> Of course rights and clearances are always issues, but I would think
>> > >> (again - speculation and my own personal opinion) that particularly
>> with
>> > >> the people Bill has played with for years, that's not such a hard
>> thing to
>> > >> sort out.�
>>
>> > >>
>> > >> I agree that hopefully one day we're able to bring you some live
>> material
>> > >> as there are certainly great things on tape (so to speak). But
>> > >> again...time, time, time. Oz also, one presumes based on his current
>> doings
>> > >> at Prairie Sun is also quite busy. And as much as anything would
>> > >> undoubtedly be better than the bootlegs floating around, I don't
>> think any
>> > >> of the musicians involved would want to release things willy nilly,
>> no
>> > >> matter how much we may want it!
>> > >>
>> > >> Dave
>> > >>
>> > >> On Apr 8, 2013, at 8:34 PM, "wtmdmm@..." <wtmdmm@...> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> �
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Specifically it was the Kai: Konton & Laz/Nakamura/Yamaki: Bass &
>> Drum
>> > >> P-Vine Japan releases were tend to be hard to find as well as pricey
>> that
>> > >> made me think of them being offered as downloads as well.� The
>> recordings
>>
>> > >> were done in those cases. I also expected Oz would be around on many
>> live
>> > >> dates, etc.� I for one wouldn't be picky about their quality per se
>> as far
>> > >> as mix/master, etc etc.�� However, I do see where rights/clearances
>> (esp. a
>>
>> > >> label release as in P-Vine vs. the same material being made
>> available as
>> > >> download) could get complicated. Although with a solo show
>> (Koyaanisqatsi),
>> > >> Material & MoD that should be less of an issue presumably.
>> > >>
>> > >> ---------- Original Message ----------
>> > >> From: "Dave @ M.O.D. Technologies" <dave@...>
>> > >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> > >> Subject: Re: [laswell] Live shows as downloads
>> > >> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 21:02:00 -0400
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> �
>> > >> This is something that was discussed in the past.�
>>
>> > >> �
>> > >> Part of the limitation was that in order for it to be done 'right',
>> there
>> > >> would need to be some time spent with the recordings (whether mixing,
>> > >> mastering or what have you) and that's something Bill didn't have
>> time for.
>> > >> Which would leave it to someone like Bob Musso who also has a lot on
>> his
>> > >> plate.�
>> > >> �
>> > >> In short though, nothing is ever off the table.�
>>
>> > >>
>> > >> �
>> > >> *************
>> > >> Dave Brunelle
>> > >> MOD Technologies
>> > >> http://mod-technologies.com/
>> > >>
>> > >> On Apr 7, 2013, at 8:43 PM, "piikea2007" <wtmdmm@...> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> �
>> > >>
>> > >> It's occurred to me now that Bill has the MOD website/store it could
>> also
>> > >> offer recordings of his various live shows solely as downloads (Flac
>> &/or
>> > >> mp3). He certainly has the expertise & people around him to do so at
>> a
>> > >> pretty low cost. How much could it cost to host more sound files on
>> the
>> > >> site along with the official release ones? Especially given the
>> relatively
>> > >> fewer official cd releases in recent years. A "Beat the Boots" type
>> thing
>> > >> w/o the cost of their physically released. As is he only earned
>> money from
>> > >> the individual shows & this would be a way to earn a little "extra"
>> from
>> > >> having done them. Frisell & many others currently do this.
>> > >>
>> > >> I could understand if he feels the live shows are "test grounds" or
>> > >> experiments that he'd rather not put out there but to my mind its a
>> damn
>> > >> shame to have so much great Material only heard/seen by those
>> present at
>> > >> the shows (or sometimes audience recordings). Unless you live in
>> Japan or
>> > >> Europe there's not that many Laz live shows to get to!
>> > >>
>> > >> Seems reasonable to me but what do I know?
>> > >>
>> > >> �
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>> > >> �
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>> > >>
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>> > Dave Brunelle
>> > M.O.D. Technologies
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