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That=E2=80=99s why I have all of my Trees & Leaves as WAV files on a couple=
of different portable hard drives. That way I can easily burn CD=E2=80=99=
s if needed or turn them into MP3 files ...
Peter
From: mailto:[email protected]=20
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 11:52 AM
To: [email protected]=20
Subject: Re: [tadream] Blue Room
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My original CDR from the tree are all palying and verifying perfectly.=20
3 factors are determining the longevity of the CDR:=20
1.Quality of the media itself. There was some crappy stuff out there. Choo=
sing and investing in a good brandname will pay down the road.
2.Burn-in speed, ideally 2x or 4x.
3.Storage. Avoid extreme conditions.
As suggested, backup is always a safe bet.
Cheers
Daniel
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 27, 2020, at 10:22, M Bergeron [email protected] [tadream] <tadream@=
yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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While they're theoretically supposed to last ~50-100 years, experience su=
ggests more like 10-15 years. YMMV
I'd STRONGLY suggest backing up a 20-year-old disc ASAP
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--Epicurus, philosopher (c. 341-270 BCE)
On Monday, January 27, 2020, 10:06:54 AM EST, Dave Brewer [email protected]=
om [tadream] <[email protected]> wrote:=20
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How long are cdrs supposed to last? The blue room disc is 20 years old no=
w. I should check my copy too. My only concern's been the disc label peelin=
g off.=20
Dave
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 1:44 PM '[email protected]' jimbo@freshbiscui=
ts.com [tadream] <[email protected]> wrote:
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My CD-R of Blue Room demo has deteriorated- does anyone have a lossless=
copy I can =E2=80=9Cborrow=E2=80=9D?=20
Jim
Virus-free. www.avg.com=20=20
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<DIV>That=E2=80=99s why I have all of my Trees & Leaves as WAV files on=
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [tadream] Blue Room</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P>My original CDR from the tree are all palying and verifying perfectly.=20
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<DIV>3 factors are determining the longevity of the CDR:=20
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<DIV>1.Quality of the media itself. There was some crappy stuff out t=
here.=20
Choosing and investing in a good brandname will pay down the road.</DIV>
<DIV>2.Burn-in speed, ideally 2x or 4x.</DIV>
<DIV>3.Storage. Avoid extreme conditions.</DIV>
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<DIV>As suggested, backup is always a safe bet.</DIV>
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<DIV>Cheers</DIV>
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<DIV>Daniel<BR><BR>
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