Re: Torrent Exchange Protocol

Is Jason Duncan's comments are right? Do you people want to destroy BT? I don't fully agree with these comments. Because:

a) Some tracker websites are closed, or closing down. I, personally, had three seperate downloads, all of them were around 75-80% downloaded, and the tracker site (www.demonoid.com) is closed. Now, from where I am going to find them again? Isn't it a pity that me and my computer spent some time to download that much data for nothing?

b) Some of the tracker sites are charging money for their services. Isn't this service supposed to be free through the internet? I agree, to keep up a site needs money. This is where the donations comes in; or, maybe a few, reasonable advertisements.

c) Some other sites uses a lot of pop-up's, which irritates me. Or, even relays you to other sites which has nothing to do with Torrents.

I am sure many of you have faced with these things.

That is why I, sort of, agree with the guys who try to find a way to cut down, sort of, the tracker monopoly. Clients, after obtaining the data from a reliable torrent source, should be able to communicate with each other in the case of a closed tracker site so uploads and downloads can continue. Seeders should continue to upload their seeds via their own reliable tracker, I believe, this way, the tracker site will not be by-passed.

I, personally, was very found of demonoid.com. He did a marvellous job. I hope he will find the two sites that he is seeking, in order to continue what he did up to now. Anybody who is interested please visit his site to learn more about what he is seeking.

I hope, you guys who try to find a new way for a distribution network, will find a way so everybody will be happy; trackers, clients, etc. (except some agencies!!!).

Regards to all
Aykut  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: J Duncan 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 5:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [BitTorrent] Torrent Exchange Protocol


  Why does everyone want to destroy what BT is and what it does. You 
  people need to go write your own BT derived PIRATE protocol. because all 
  these additions you guys keep trying to sell are solutions to problems 
  that do not exist! and quite frankly this "torrent exchange" scheme is 
  insanely dumb, no offense.

  seriously folks, you need to step back, see what BT is, what it is not, 
  and then roll your own system - because all you really want to do is 
  break bit torrent.

  just a note, an optimal solution would be to implement backend tools to 
  assist bit torrent in doing what it does best - then you could 
  eventually roll these into custom bt-derived tools if desired. for 
  example we keep seeing people wanting to crap all over the beauty of the 
  bt protocol to create a "trackerless" distributed network for the 
  peerlists... well how about instead of breaking BT you create a SEPERATE 
  app - a distributed p2p system that does nothing but sit on a local 
  machine and create a gigantic distributed tracker that tracks any 
  arbitrary hash - then just force all your torrent announces (from 
  whatever bt client you like) to localhost. theres also been some 
  interesting comments about using the other less superior p2p (pirate) 
  protocols for sharing, searching, and managing only TORRENTS themselves. 
  and there are other solutions,

  so please stop trying to destroy bit torrent

  k thx






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