Re: Kenosis: BT tracker failover / distribution

>From: Gary Fung <[email protected]>
> On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 18:59:10 -0800 (PST), Elliott Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> >> From: Gary Fung <[email protected]>

> I haven't read much about Kademlia either, but Kenosis describes a root node for discovery of peer nodes (trackers), and the location of root node is configurable. So there are central servers, but not a single one.
> 

That root node sounds an awfully lot like a tracker...   ...and that
isn't even the central server I'd worry most about.

> >> There are two cases to consider: legacy BitTorrent clients and Kenosis-enabled BitTorrent clients. In either case, imagine we have two Kenosis-enabled BitTorrent trackers being run on machines TA and TB (both on port 1234). Machines TA and TB automatically organize themselves into a Kademlia-style network via Kenosis. Let's further imagine a file being shared by the operator of TA, called FA. FA's .torrent file is constructed to talk to this tracker URL: http://foo.bt.kenosisp2p.org:1234/announce.
> >>
> >
> > Sounds very much like the Multi-Tracker extension:
> > http://bittornado.com/docs/multitracker-spec.txt
> >
> > It exists, it has been implemented. Haven't heard of complete failures
> > with it. Perhaps the Kenosis folks should consider begining on that?
> 
> No this is different. multitracker pre-specifies trackers to connect to (I use it to add more bthub urls), Kenosis forms a P2P network of tracker nodes that all torrents can use. Node address is computed based on info_hash and a distance algorithm. Clients select the closest tracker node, if it goes down the next closest node is used so the swarm is not splitted.
> 

Again, the root node sounds an awful lot like a tracker. True, subsequent
requests can go elsewhere, but that root node *must* be up in order for
clients to connect. What happens when I introduce an evil tracker? If
tracker nodes get created without human interaction, I can easily
introduce an evil tracker that kills everything.

Once you've brought human interaction into tracker creation, how is this
superior to Multi-Tracker? Certainly it is inferior because all initial
connections must be to that root hub. Where is the gain?


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