Re: UPnP, NATs, and P2P
Justin Cormack <[email protected]> Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:22:47 +0000 (GMT)
| Newsgroups | gmane.network.bit-torrent.general |
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| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
> > > Even without UPnP, penetrating NAT is still possible. > Currently MS Torendo IPv6 server protocal can let 2 peers both behind > NAT to communicate with each other directly without server relay. Reading the docs, I see it basically works in those situations under which STUN works ie sometimes, mostly if you have a really dumb NAT box (not a Unix machine). Also if you want to talk to real IPv6 hosts all traffic has to pass through a server. (just using it for NAT traversal you can talk directly if it works at all - no one has decided to procide open NAT relay servers). I suspect that this part of the infrastructure wont last long unless core ipv6 routers decide to support it. Who is providing the servers? Can anyone behind NAT ping me (bream.specialbusservice.com - ipv6 name only)? > > > On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 05:24:08 -0500, Bill Cox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >From what I can tell, enabling UPnP on NAT enabled gateway is not > > currently a good idea. There are too many computers with spy-ware and > > worse, and allowing those applications to open ports through your fire- > > wall is risky. > > > > The problem this causes is that P2P enabled applications like BitTorrent > > aren't able to contact peers behind NATs unless the users are computer- > > savvy enough to forward a BitTorrent port. > > > > Is this a long-term problem, or is there some solution out there? IPv6 > > wont do it: we don't use NATs just to save IP address space, we use NATs > > for security. > > > > Bill > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BitTorrent/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/