Re: Still searching for a better Solution

Okay........Just 1 last thought..The key word for BNR2 is "singular",,,,,"1"......."uno"

Msglst file  < 1 gig  -  the real key for using BNR2
Use 1 server at a time to download headers
Use 1 database for large binary groups so your Msglst file doesn't grow beyond 1 gig

BTW you can use more than 1 database at a time ie 1 database for each newsgroup :)  however BNR3 would possibly be more useful if you want to use multiple binary groups downloading large amounts of headers.

All in all BNR2 is outdated because of the lack of support for updating the programme. But in it's day it was really a great performer and I would love to see someone enhance it just 1 more time :)

John
BTW I am only a small downloader....40 - 60 gigs per month and BNR2 didn't miss a beat most months :)  









--- On Mon, 9/1/08, rus1807 <[email protected]> wrote:
From: rus1807 <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [BNR] Still searching for a better Solution
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 7:16 PM










    
            --- In bnr1@yahoogroups. com, john llewsrac <llewsrac@.. .> wrote:

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> I thought that BNR3 over came the problem of the big movie groups.

In the newsgroup where you go to refresh if you use the pop down menu

you do have the options 

> Get New headers only

> Get now and missing headers   (This is the one you should use)

> Get all headers again

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> Also in the groups properties if you set Download at most to 200,000

headers which should get you the current first and anything else that

makes the 200,000

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> I have found nzb files to be the best for me as I don't have to

download so many headers. Suggest that you work out what movies you

want and do a search on either

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> Newzleech   www.newzleech. com

> binsearch     www.binsearch. info         you can actually browse the

groups as well

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> I am currently using alt.binz which is very easy to use and has many

of the features that BNR2 has plus a few extras.  It also checks the

par files so you don't download more than you have too     

www.altbinz. net

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> Everything above is free.

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> I also use binsearch the most for nzb files, but to get the most out

of it you have pay for the service. Also to join you now have to be

recommened by a friend. But it is well worth the effort.

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> What problems are you having with nzb files?

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> --- On Sat, 8/30/08, rus1807 <rus1807@... > wrote:

> From: rus1807 <rus1807@... >

> Subject: [BNR] Still searching for a better Solution

> To: bnr1@yahoogroups. com

> Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 5:11 PM

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>             In previous messages I have noted that BNR2 is unstable

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> headers are downloaded at one time. I may not know what I want to

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> download until after I look at the messages. If I use NZB files than I

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> would not have to download as many headers. I have been using Xnews

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> these last few years. A very good program except it is really not

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> designed to handled multiple connections. I like the shortcuts and

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> multiple connections that BNR2 offer. I just wish it had the ability to

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> download say 200,000 messages at a time and then when I hit refresh it

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> would retrive the next block of OLDER MESSAGES instead of only

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> downloading new messages. I have tried to explain how Xnews accomplishes

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> this. Xnews has the ability to download a set "n" number of

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> messages to retrieve either by startating at the beginning (the most

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> earliest dates) of messages or closer to the ending amout of

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> headers(that are represented by the latest dates). Here is a link that I

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> accomplish:http://www.geocitie s.com/d4vidb/ open_sp.gif

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> <http://www.geocitie s.com/d4vidb/ open_sp.gif>  . The only thing that I

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> have been able to find is after the intial download of messages is

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> a refresh option that ONLY DOWNLOADS NEW HEADERS.  I know I have read

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> and re-read the manual several times. I tried the kill/want filters and

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> the only thing that was accomplished is that it highlighted those

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> messages but did not filter out the other messages I did not need.  BNR2

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> may not have this ability. I am still working within it's limitations

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> John, thanks for your input. I know about binsearch. I have been

using their  service for some time. So if I upgrade to bnr3 then I

will get some relief on major movie groups. I may do that . I have

also been looking at Alt.binz and at Newsplex. Bnr3 may treat D/L

of headers differently than Bnr2. But just like you I thought that the

refresh option with getting new headers and missing headers would

bring up the next "N" headers that I had set as a download limit. Well

it didn't happen I only got new headers. I think this is just a

limitation on bnr2. My first attempt to use nzb files in bnr2 was a

biggie 19,000+ headers. I got it to import the nzb file and it had all

the files in the queue. But it would never D/L the files. I just

closed bnr2 out and restarted bn2 and it still would not download the

files in the queue. I finally deleted the queue file and tried some

smaller nzb files and bnr2 worked like a champ. So the timid mouse

inside me finally has joined the nzb bandwagon. I guess the Old

Shotgun Approach to Usenet is being put out to sea.



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