Re: CenterIM Update + Roadmap Proposal

On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Stéphane Bisinger wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> On 01/03/07, David Riebenbauer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yesterday I requested the creation of a project called CenterIM at
>> Sourceforge. I hope that my request will be approved in the course of
>> this week. That also means that the name under which our development of
>> Centericq will continue will also be CenterIM.
>
> That's great!
>
>> I think a name change isn't so bad after all, because this project
>> involves new people and will possibly go into a different direction than
>> Konst would have taken it.
>
> I agree with that. Also it underlines that we do not only support ICQ
> as a protocol, but many many other protocols.
>
>> I would like to thank Konst for all the effort he has put into
>> developing Centericq. It is an excellent program and very worthy to
>> continue it's development.
>
> You have my thankfullness too, Konst. It's a great app, that's why
> we're here talking about it!

Yeah Konst, great app if i ever saw one.

>
>> In the git repository there is a new branch called libgaim now. It
>> contains some changes where I started experimenting with the use of
>> libgaim in CenterIM. It doesn't do much yet. Essentially it breaks the
>> account dialog and makes it display a list of the protocol plugins of
>> libgaim.
>
> I think that this is our best option, well done.
>
>> And  here comes the roadmap proposal:
>>
>> 4.22.0
>> ======
>>
>> The first release of CenterIM. This should be done soonish. Basically a release
>> of the current git head as soon as the following points are solved.
>> [...]
>
> Agree
>

Yes, but lets wait until some of the tasks mentioned in `Help wanted: 
simple tasks' are done (locating the patches mainly).

>> 4.22.1 - 4.22.x
>> ===============
>>
>> These should be released as the need arises, especially when important fixes
>> become available. The points to focus on for these should be:
>> [...]
>> - Stabilization
>
> Maybe into this point we can include a revisiting of all the build
> process. For now we should just focus on "making it work", but after
> that we need to update everything to the latest (stable) autoconf,
> automake, etc. and clean everything.
>

Another point to discuss: include libraries in the codebase, or as 
seperate packages, lets start a thread about that.

>> 4.23.0
>> ======
>> [...]
>
> Ok for libgaim
>
> I would definitely add this:
> - Fix visualizations with UTF-8
>
> This doesn't mean UTF-8 support, but at least make it so that we can
> display UTF-8 characters nicely. Maybe it could be possible to do that
> with some iconv functions.
>
>> 4.24.0
>> ======
>>
>> Multiple accounts per protocol
>> ------------------------------
>> [...]
>
> Agree
>
>> 4.25.0
>> ======
>>
>> UTF-8 support in the user interface
>> -----------------------------------
>
> This is one of the issues I care most about. It has some major
> difficulties, though: if we are to introduce the use of wchar_t
> instead of char, all the interfaces are going to change. So we need to
> redesign the kkconsui and kkstrtext from scratch. Same functionality,
> better code.

I would not say `same' functionality. I would say `enhanced' (and then i 
do not mean utf8). What I mean is that more flexibility would be nice.

Eg, i heard someone mention fullscreen chat. Another example would be 
multiple chat windows.

During a redesign this can all be abstracted and be taken care of.

But be aware: it seems that a lot of the current protocol hooks are very 
tightly intergrated with the ui.

>
>

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