Re: Dishonest Forks? | Was - Re: [Namedroppers-honest] Brian Smith asks: Who is Dean Anderson?

--On Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:19 PM -0500 Dean Anderson <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, Kevin wrote:
>>
>> I have stated more times than I can count... I have absolutely no
>> connection what so ever to any of these people.
>
> You collaborated with Kaminsky on the DJBDNS scam. You continue to be
> associated with Kaminsky and Dempsky and "Mark Johnson" and their scheme
> on this very list, in front of our very eyes. So your claim that you
> have no connection whatsoever to them is most evidently disengenous.  I
> don't know of any other business connections, but I don't know your
> company, either; one connection is enough, and that one is a biggie.



>
> That doesn't mean there aren't any other connections. Both Dr. Bernstein
> and I have been surprised at the extent of the concealed schemes of the
> Vixie cartel. But thanks for the history. For example:
> http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/blurb/bindmoney.html Vixie cartel (Nominum)
> changed its address from 950 Charter to 2385 Bay Road.  Both are the
> same building. It was just the other entrance. There was no real move,
> but an effort to deceive people (maybe the IRS) about the co-location of
> ISC and Nominum. (Mapquest of both addresss and aerial map demonstrates.

Actually, no, they're not.  They are in the same complex/block of buildings 
though.  2385 Bay Rd. is just around the corner from 950 Charter and is not 
at all the same building.  As to why they moved, I'd guess that it had more 
to do with needing more space, or better office space.  Nominum's offices 
are, however, no longer at either address.  They're still in Redwood city 
though.

>
>> If you can provide mathematical proof that the paper presented at NDSS
>> (http://www.isoc.org/isoc/conferences/ndss/09/pdf/15.pdf) contains
>> errors that would cause more harm than benefit from implementing the
>> changes outlined there, and convince a mutually acceptable neutral
>> third party, I'll donate a further $100.
>
> This paper expounds on "Kaminsky-class" cache poisoning.  As Kaminsky
> was discovered to be a hoax at the same time (Feb 2009) as this paper
> was published; the basis of the paper is likewise unsound. The paper you
> cite does not demonstrate any flaw in DJBDNS.  After that, it looks like
> a generic paper on cache poisoning.  Its no proof of what you assert.
> The paper is just a sad example of people getting fooled by Kaminsky.

Er...a Hoax by *whom*?  References and citations?

>
>> You keep asserting these statements as fact, and when pressed for
>> follow up, you shift the conspiracy theory somewhere else, or
>> incorporate new pieces. If you cannot back up these statements with
>> any kind of documentation to show the rest of us, they aren't facts
>> but your own unsubstantiated gut feelings. If these really are facts,
>> prove it. If not, label them as your unsubstantiated feelings and lets
>> move on.
>
> As above, you make claims that are false while I show the evidence of
> their falseness; as above, you just lie brazenly about your
> associations.  As above, brazen lying is a common to the Vixie cartel
> methods.
>
> Actually, it has been your theories that weren't substantiated;
> stronger: they were refuted.  Multiple sources confirm your discredit;
> you and Kaminsky didn't discover anything.

Cite them.

>
> Actually, it has been your supporters who attack me and make unfounded
> assertions that my "theories" being unsubstantiated, when the "theories"
> I've stated have been proven true and confirmed.

Cite these as well.

>
> 		--Dean
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