Re: Dishonest Forks? | Was - Re: [Namedroppers-honest] Brian Smith asks: ?Who is Dean Anderson?

On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, Michael Loftis wrote:

> > I've made no such admission. I've not misapplied any math. You've
> > offered no evidence for your assertions. But you just assert fallacies,
> > as a diversion from the facts.
> 
> <http://marc.info/?l=djbdns&m=126827471711591&w=2>
> 
> But you keep quoting the math where you use multiplication, even in this 
> current thread.  

Hahaha.  That isn't my math. That was the discredited "roulette logic"  
of Dan Kaminsky.  I just reproduced it incorrectly for a few minutes.

In fact, I gave the correct math for a birthday attack in that same
thread (look for references to CRC Handbook of Cryptography) and also
back in 2008. I show all my work.

> You make other assumptions about collaboration, when all you have is 
> evidence of data sharing.  

Data sharing is colloration, but I have much more than that.  I have
discussion with Kaminsky and Day discussing the design and math for the
birthday attack "prevention", which Jeff King implemented, along with
others, between August 2008 (perhaps earlier) and April 2009.

It is after the fact that they are trying to distance themselves from 
each other.

   "Paul had put as much distance as he could from MAPS at the time due
    to being personally sued by entities in disagreement with MAPS
    policies/listings."

That you openly describe dishonest activity (putting distance after
being sued)  without even realizing it is dishonest, says something
about you, and your credibility to make honest statements.  I think you
are a Vixie huckster, like Brian Smith, trying to protect other Vixie
hucksters: Kaminsky, Day, & King.  And that is itself a curious fact.  
Even more curious is that Smith was connected to Kaminsky, and Smith's
boss to uber-spammer Scott Richter.  In 2003, MAPs employees were doing
list-washing (remove spam trap addresses) for Scott Richter.



> We all build in the RFCs, so are we all collaborating with their
> authors?  No.  Kevin Day had no desire to write any patches/software
> in relation to the paper, others did.  Those others wrote patches.  
> That doesn't mean that Kevin collaborated with any of them.

This would be just one RFC written several authors, collaborating on
design and division of labor between the time of the secret DNS summit
until now.

> Further your assertion that this is some big scam or hoax, is still
> unsubstantiated, and in direct contradiction to the facts.

The only thing that is in direct contradiction to the facts is your
claims.  

MIT Technology Review reported in December 2008 that nothing was
discovered by Kaminsky (nor by Day or King).  Most of the hoax (enough
to establish the fact of hoax) is written up in my NTIA comments and
that document is substantiated with the necessary references.
c
		--Dean

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