Re: okay already

Dean Anderson <[email protected]> Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:59:38 -0400 (EDT)
Newsgroups gmane.network.djbdns
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Michael Loftis wrote:
> 
> --On Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:37 PM -0400 Dean Anderson <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> > All of the links cited below by Loftis are known to be BS, and have been
> > previously exposed as fraudulent false claims.  Loftis himself has been
> > exposed as being a former MAPS employee with no genuine interest or
> > particular knowledge of DNS or DJB DNS.
> 
> So, you're including the US CERT in this supposed list of "hoaxers" now 
> too?

As I understand it, CERT takes no position on the veracity of the claim.  
They just report the claim. But many people were initially taken in by
the hoax.  It wasn't until November, 2008 that the hoax was uncovered.

> And yet more of your great faulty logic Dean.

There is no faulty logic on my part. Just unsubstantiated and
discredited claims on your part.

> Someone worked at a company N years ago (in my case, for about a month
> something like 7 years ago, and I worked for Margie Arbon, not Paul
> Vixie.

I don't care very much. I'd love to know more details, but they have no
bearing on your technical credibility, and can't rehabilitate your
character.  I know who you are associated with; I know you have posted
nothing credible on any subject of DNS.  I know you nonchalantly posted
a description of how Vixie was trying to "put some distance" between
himself and MAPS after MAPS was sued. That 'putting of distance' after
lawsuit is a dishonest behavior that evidences Vixie's lack of integrity
and poor citizenship (the quality of obeying laws and duties to
society). These are components of character. That you can so
nonchalantly report such bad character without embarassment or criticism
means you also have bad character.

MAPS is known to be a scam performing listwashing for spammers such as
Scott Richter, and extorting ISPs and other companies, convincing
network operators to violate laws such as the Wiretap Act and the ECPA,
and their state-law counterparts. That your only problem was a lack of
communiation with Margie Arbon is just further evidence of your lack of
character.

> Further, you don't know me at all, I don't recall ever meeting you, or
> seeing anything other than your unsubstantiated claims against some
> sort of mysterious DNS Cabal, Vixie Cartel, Kaminsky Hoax, etc.

There is no mystery to the cabal. There remains a lot I don't know about
it, but it has been uncovered.

> Kaminsky never claimed to invent anything new, what was discovered is
> a way in which the birthday attacks could be made many orders of
> magnitude more successful.

There is no such new attack "many orders of magnitude more successful".  
That was the hoax.  Kaminsky just fabricated his results with fictitious
claims of "roulette logic". There is no credibility to his claims.

		--Dean

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