Re: TCP "experiments"

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Jon Crowcroft
<[email protected]>wrote:

> google have extremely good instrumentation - you need to go visit them
> unfortunately, you'd have to sign NDAs  but believe me, they know
> what they are about a lot more than most academics and a whole lot of
> other industry - some of the stuff is quite public too (lots of SPDY
> testing is on their blogs and vairous public facing documents)
>
>

> their shareholders would get upset if they deployed things that broke
>> the world badly - that's the NSA's job.
>
>
That's the NSA's job - lol :)
True that Jon :)


>
> In missive <[email protected]>, Joe Touch typed:
>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>On 7/29/2013 2:53 PM, Jon Crowcroft wrote:
>  >>> In missive <[email protected]>, Joe Touch typed:
>  >>>
>  >>>   >>My view has been that we need to protect the Internet for *when*
> there
>  >>>   >>is no more Google. I don't trust Google (or any company) to do
> that.
>  >>>
>  >>> why do we trust you?
>  >>
>  >>You shouldn't.
>  >>
>  >>More specifically, "trust but verify".
>  >>
>  >>Un-instrumented changes are not verifiable.
>  >>
>  >>Joe
>
>  cheers
>
>    jon
>
>