Re: j'accuse NFV
Khaled Elsayed <[email protected]> Tue, 5 May 2015 10:55:32 +0200
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But if endpoints have such choice to bypass or turn off, would there be any endpoint out there that would choose not to? On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:14 PM, David P. Reed <[email protected]> wrote: > This argument presumes that firewalls work.... of course they can know > neither the meaning of the packet to the sender nor the meaning to the > receiver. So just as an air filter cannot protect your ears from shocking > utterances, the idea that a packet firewall ought to be entrusted to > protect communicators from mischief is silly... > > Of course the endpoints need to be able to shut down or to bypass such > "helpful" things as firewalls. They are at best kludges. > > On May 4, 2015, Khaled Elsayed <[email protected]> wrote: > >> You mean like a hacking packet would say please don't process me via that >> nifty NFV firewall or something :-) >> >> Khaled >> >> >> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Djamel Sadok <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi, >>> >>> May be we could also give the end user flow the possibility to say that >>> it >>> does not want to have its data packets processed by any NFV or even black >>> list some NFVs (types of functions) on the path. Would this be possible >>> to >>> achieve? would it render NFV ineffective? can both NFV and Not NFV >>> (bypass >>> it) on given flows live together? >>> >>> Djamel >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Matt Mathis <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:26 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ah, j'accuse TLA. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> SDN is not is the same bucket, let me assure you. >>>> >>>> As for TCP, good algorithms are portable between protocols, bad >>>> >>> algorithms >>> >>>> are dangerous at any scale. Once you fully deconstruct the protocol, I >>>> don't care so much about the packet format. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> --MM-- >>>> The best way to predict the future is to create it. - Alan Kay >>>> >>>> Privacy matters! We know from recent events that people are using our >>>> services to speak in defiance of unjust governments. We treat privacy >>>> >>> and >>> >>>> security as matters of life and death, because for some users, they are. >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> end2end-interest mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/end2end-interest >>>> Contact [email protected] for assistance. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> end2end-interest mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/end2end-interest >>> Contact [email protected] for assistance. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> end2end-interest mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/end2end-interest >> Contact [email protected] for assistance. >> > > -- Sent with *K-@ Mail > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onegravity.k10.pro2>* > - the evolution of emailing. > _______________________________________________ end2end-interest mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/end2end-interest Contact [email protected] for assistance.