Fwd: New Blood

Jason Townsend <[email protected]> Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:32:24 -0800
Newsgroups gmane.network.fire.devel
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Begin forwarded message:
> From: Trevor Stone <[email protected]>
> Date: December 12, 2006 10:32:02 PM PST
> To: fire-development-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
> Subject: New Blood
>
> Greetings everyone.  I notice this mailing list hasn't had any  
> traffic in the last several months and there haven't been many  
> releases this year (I couldn't find a packaged 2.0 Alpha  
> download).  I hope Fire hasn't stagnated (burned out?).  Maybe I  
> can help get some kindling going.
>
> I've been using Fire for the last few years and I think you've all  
> done a great job; I love how well it uses Cocoa features.  For the  
> last few years I've spent my days writing enterprise software in  
> Java.  I've decided to expand my programming skills by working on  
> open source software and Fire looks like a good candidate, in part  
> because there's a bug or two I'd like to see fixed ;-)
>
> What's the state of the project?  What needs to be done?
>
> I built both 1.5.6 and 2.0 from source (Application Only because  
> the full build had an issue or two).  The latter looks pretty but I  
> can't get it to connect to any services.  Do I need to do something  
> special, or should I just try to get the full build working?
>
> Depending on the status and momentum of 2.0, I'd like to help fix  
> some bugs in 1.5 as a way of producing something desirable and  
> finding out how things work (though the readme in 2.0 indicates a  
> large refactor).  Is there a unit testing framework?
>
> My highest priority 1.5.6 bug is the fact that Jabber accounts  
> (I've tried Google and LiveJournal) don't connect on Intel machines  
> (though the forums indicate PPC works fine).  I stepped through the  
> connection process in the debugger and found that the socket open  
> callback had errno 61: ECONNREFUSED.  Any pointers on how to debug  
> that further?
>
> At your service,
>
> =-=-=-= Trevor Stone -=- [Flwyd] -=- <tstone @ trevorstone.org> =-=- 
> =-=
> Computer science, eclectic philosophy, games, wits, esoterics, odd  
> hats
> http://flwyd.livejournal.com/          Thou roynish shard-borne  
> mammet!
> Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?


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message:</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><P style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px =
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style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>From: =
</B></FONT><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px =
Helvetica">Trevor Stone &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>&gt;</FON=
T></P> <P style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT =
face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px =
Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" =
size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">December 12, 2006 10:32:02 =
PM PST</FONT></P> <P style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT =
face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px =
Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>To: </B><A =
href=3D"mailto:fire-development-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org"><FONT =
color=3D"#000000" style=3D"color: =
#000000">fire-development-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org</FONT></A></FONT></P> <P =
style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" =
size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: =
#000000"><B>Subject: </B><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica"><B>New Blood</B></FONT></FONT></P><FONT =
face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px =
Helvetica; color: #000000"> <P style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; =
min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <P style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px =
0.0px"><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px =
Helvetica">Greetings everyone.<SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =
</SPAN>I notice this mailing list hasn't had any traffic in the last =
several months and there haven't been many releases this year (I =
couldn't find a packaged 2.0 Alpha download).<SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>I hope Fire hasn't stagnated =
(burned out?).<SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>Maybe I =
can help get some kindling going.</FONT></P> <P style=3D"margin: 0.0px =
0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> =
<P style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" =
size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">I've been using Fire for the =
last few years and I think you've all done a great job; I love how well =
it uses Cocoa features.<SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =
</SPAN>For the last few years I've spent my days writing enterprise =
software in Java.<SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>I've =
decided to expand my programming skills by working on open source =
software and Fire looks like a good candidate, in part because there's a =
bug or two I'd like to see fixed ;-)</FONT></P> <P style=3D"margin: =
0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: =
14.0px"><BR></P> <P style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT =
face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">What's =
the state of the project?<SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =
</SPAN>What needs to be done?</FONT></P> <P style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px =
0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <P =
style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" =
size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">I built both 1.5.6 and 2.0 =
from source (Application Only because the full build had an issue or =
two).<SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>The latter looks =
pretty but I can't get it to connect to any services.<SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>Do I need to do something =
special, or should I just try to get the full build working?</FONT></P> =
<P style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; =
min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <P style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px =
0.0px"><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px =
Helvetica">Depending on the status and momentum of 2.0, I'd like to help =
fix some bugs in 1.5 as a way of producing something desirable and =
finding out how things work (though the readme in 2.0 indicates a large =
refactor).<SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>Is there a =
unit testing framework?</FONT></P> <P style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px =
0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <P =
style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" =
size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">My highest priority 1.5.6 =
bug is the fact that Jabber accounts (I've tried Google and LiveJournal) =
don't connect on Intel machines (though the forums indicate PPC works =
fine).<SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>I stepped through =
the connection process in the debugger and found that the socket open =
callback had errno 61: ECONNREFUSED.<SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>Any pointers on how to debug =
that further?</FONT></P> <P style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; =
font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <P style=3D"margin: =
0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font: 12.0px Helvetica">At your service,</FONT></P> <P =
style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; =
min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P> <P style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px =
0.0px"><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px =
Helvetica">=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D Trevor Stone -=3D- [Flwyd] -=3D- &lt;tstone @ =
trevorstone.org&gt; =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D</FONT></P> <P style=3D"margin: 0.0px =
0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: =
12.0px Helvetica">Computer science, eclectic philosophy, games, wits, =
esoterics, odd hats</FONT></P> <P style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px =
0.0px"><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px =
Helvetica"><A =
href=3D"http://flwyd.livejournal.com">http://flwyd.livejournal.com</A>/<SP=
AN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 </SPAN>Thou =
roynish shard-borne mammet!</FONT></P> <P style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px =
0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" style=3D"font: 12.0px =
Helvetica">Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the =
play?</FONT></P> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>=

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