Re: Fire 0.32.g bugs?

Glenn <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.network.fire.general
Message-ID <BBC14C07.1C60C%[email protected]>
On 2003.10.21 9:32 PM, "Jason Townsend" <[email protected]> babbled:

> On Oct 17, 2003, at 12:03 PM, Allyn Crowe wrote:
>> I've been using fire happily for awhile now.  However after upgrading
>> to
>> 0.32.g this morning I'm having all kinds of issues:
>> 
>> 1.  Can't Add an account
>> 2.  Toolbar items "disappearing"
>> 3.  Sounds not working all of the time.  Can send 1 message and it
>> plays
>> sound, send another it doesn't.
>> 4.  Can't open new IM windows
> 
> You might want to check the permissions on your home directory... can
> you write to ~/Library/Application Support/Fire? I have not heard of
> these problems before, except we occasionally get complaints that the
> account settings don't stick. That seems to always be because of a
> permissions problem which I have no clue what is causing.

    This is an interesting thread on the mac-games-dev list, with regards to
the proper place to save user files... Seems you aren't necessarily
guaranteed write access to ~/Library/Application Support...

    From George Warner (Apple Developer Technical Support (DTS)):

The user should always have full access to all files and directories in and
below their home directory. The problem is that should and do aren't always
the same. ;-)

I'd put preferences into the ~/Library/Preferences directory (via
CFPreferences) and things like user dictionaries and application support
libraries in ~/Library/Application Support. Note: If you create more than
one support file here _please_ group them together in their own
sub-directory. If for whatever reason the Application Support folder is
protected then it would require admin priv's to override (fix?) that
protection (at install time).

> If Application Support is not guaranteed to be writeable does that
> imply that a user needs Admin access before an application can
> install stuff in Application Support?

Only if it's not writeable.

I have three machines in my office that I've just cold installed Panther on.
All the users that I created on all three machines had full access to their
~/Library and sub-directories. This is the way that it _SHOULD_ be. I've
also got a B&W in the lab that was updated from 10.2.6 where the Application
Support folder is read-only. How or why? I don't know. Is it wrong? I
believe so.

Perhaps I'll run Disk Utilities and see if I can "Fix Permissions" on that
disk. If it changes the access to read-write then I'll stick my neck out and
say that that's the "official" way it should be and anyone that changes it
differently is wrong. ;-)



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