Re: Crashing?
Ernest Phillips <[email protected]> Sun, 21 Aug 2005 13:24:09 -0700
| Newsgroups | gmane.network.fire.general |
|---|---|
| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
Got it. Also turned on the crash dialogues (I must have turned them
off without realizing). I made sure to disable APE and try it again,
this is the crash log from the time APE was disabled.
Host Name: Mei-Ling
Date/Time: 2005-08-21 13:22:02.955 -0700
OS Version: 10.4.2 (Build 8C46)
Report Version: 3
Command: Fire
Path: /Applications/Fire.app/Contents/MacOS/Fire
Parent: WindowServer [434]
Version: 1.9.92 (1.9.92)
PID: 489
Thread: 0
Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000021
Thread 0 Crashed:
0 libobjc.A.dylib 0x909ad0f8 objc_msgSend + 24
1 BuddyListCell.ob 0x02148c00 -[BuddyListCell
setBLItem:] + 140 (BuddyListCell.m:161)
2 SingleCellBuddyList.ob 0x02108450 -
[SingleCellBuddyList(NSOutlineViewDelegation)
outlineView:willDisplayCell:forTableColumn:item:] + 120
(SingleCellBuddyList.m:1310)
3 com.apple.AppKit 0x936d02a0 -[NSTableView
_drawContentsAtRow:column:clipRect:] + 396
4 com.apple.AppKit 0x937758c8 -[NSOutlineView
_drawContentsAtRow:column:clipRect:] + 244
5 com.apple.AppKit 0x936cfc94 -[NSTableView
drawRow:clipRect:] + 220
6 com.apple.AppKit 0x937757c0 -[NSOutlineView
drawRow:clipRect:] + 184
7 com.apple.AppKit 0x936cfa50 -[NSTableView
drawRowIndexes:clipRect:] + 108
8 com.apple.AppKit 0x936cf0d8 -[NSTableView
drawRect:] + 1144
9 com.apple.AppKit 0x93663d10 -[NSView
_drawRect:clip:] + 2128
10 com.apple.AppKit 0x936632e0 -[NSView
_recursiveDisplayAllDirtyWithLockFocus:visRect:] + 404
11 com.apple.AppKit 0x93665ff8
_recursiveDisplayInRect2 + 84
12 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9075ac24
CFArrayApplyFunction + 416
13 com.apple.AppKit 0x936633f4 -[NSView
_recursiveDisplayAllDirtyWithLockFocus:visRect:] + 680
14 com.apple.AppKit 0x93665ff8
_recursiveDisplayInRect2 + 84
15 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9075ac24
CFArrayApplyFunction + 416
16 com.apple.AppKit 0x936633f4 -[NSView
_recursiveDisplayAllDirtyWithLockFocus:visRect:] + 680
17 com.apple.AppKit 0x93665ff8
_recursiveDisplayInRect2 + 84
18 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9075ac24
CFArrayApplyFunction + 416
19 com.apple.AppKit 0x936633f4 -[NSView
_recursiveDisplayAllDirtyWithLockFocus:visRect:] + 680
20 com.apple.AppKit 0x93665ff8
_recursiveDisplayInRect2 + 84
21 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9075ac24
CFArrayApplyFunction + 416
22 com.apple.AppKit 0x936633f4 -[NSView
_recursiveDisplayAllDirtyWithLockFocus:visRect:] + 680
23 com.apple.AppKit 0x93665ff8
_recursiveDisplayInRect2 + 84
24 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9075ac24
CFArrayApplyFunction + 416
25 com.apple.AppKit 0x936633f4 -[NSView
_recursiveDisplayAllDirtyWithLockFocus:visRect:] + 680
26 com.apple.AppKit 0x936628b8 -[NSView
_recursiveDisplayRectIfNeededIgnoringOpacity:isVisibleRect:rectIsVisible
RectForView:topView:] + 196
27 com.apple.AppKit 0x93662e80 -[NSView
_recursiveDisplayRectIfNeededIgnoringOpacity:isVisibleRect:rectIsVisible
RectForView:topView:] + 1676
28 com.apple.AppKit 0x93662e80 -[NSView
_recursiveDisplayRectIfNeededIgnoringOpacity:isVisibleRect:rectIsVisible
RectForView:topView:] + 1676
29 com.apple.AppKit 0x936834dc -[NSThemeFrame
_recursiveDisplayRectIfNeededIgnoringOpacity:isVisibleRect:rectIsVisible
RectForView:topView:] + 192
30 com.apple.AppKit 0x9365c52c -[NSView
_displayRectIgnoringOpacity:isVisibleRect:rectIsVisibleRectForView:]
+ 384
31 com.apple.AppKit 0x93651830 -[NSView
displayIfNeeded] + 248
32 com.apple.AppKit 0x936516a0 -[NSWindow
displayIfNeeded] + 180
33 com.apple.AppKit 0x9365154c
_handleWindowNeedsDisplay + 200
34 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9074af9c
__CFRunLoopDoObservers + 352
35 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9074b23c __CFRunLoopRun + 420
36 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9074acdc
CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 268
37 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93123be0
RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 264
38 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x931231ec
ReceiveNextEventCommon + 244
39 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x931230e0
BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 96
40 com.apple.AppKit 0x9361e1a4 _DPSNextEvent + 384
41 com.apple.AppKit 0x9361de68 -[NSApplication
nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 116
42 com.apple.AppKit 0x9361a3cc -[NSApplication
run] + 472
43 com.apple.AppKit 0x9370ac1c NSApplicationMain +
452
44 Fire_main.ob 0x004fece0 main + 108
(Fire_main.m:45)
45 Fire 0x00002e20 start + 412
46 Fire 0x00002cc0 start + 60
Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90056418
semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900723b0
pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 592
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90b6c728
TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 176
3 ...ickTimeComponents.component 0x99498440
ReadSchedulerThreadEntryPoint + 436
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002c3d4 _pthread_body + 96
Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90056418
semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900723b0
pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 592
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90b6c728
TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 176
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90b771d0 AIOFileThread
(void*) + 520
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002c3d4 _pthread_body + 96
Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000a778 mach_msg_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000a6bc mach_msg + 60
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9074b3d8 __CFRunLoopRun + 832
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9074acdc
CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 268
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9075a13c CFRunLoopRun + 52
5 com.apple.DVCPROHDMuxer 0x04c402bc
AVS::DestroyAVCDeviceController(AVS::AVCDeviceController*) + 396
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002c3d4 _pthread_body + 96
Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000a778 mach_msg_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000a6bc mach_msg + 60
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9074b3d8 __CFRunLoopRun + 832
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9074acdc
CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 268
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x913a51dc
HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 264
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x913a4f7c CAPThread::Entry
(CAPThread*) + 96
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002c3d4 _pthread_body + 96
Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9005cce0 accept + 12
1 com.apple.Foundation 0x9289d880 _backgroundActivity
+ 272
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002c3d4 _pthread_body + 96
Thread 6:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9001efec select + 12
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9075dc6c __CFSocketManager +
472
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002c3d4 _pthread_body + 96
Thread 0 crashed with PPC Thread State 64:
srr0: 0x00000000909ad0f8 srr1:
0x000000000200f030 vrsave: 0x0000000000000000
cr: 0x44022222 xer: 0x0000000020000004 lr:
0x0000000002148c00 ctr: 0x00000000909ad0e0
r0: 0x0000000002148c00 r1: 0x00000000bfffd0c0 r2:
0x000000000214d16c r3: 0x0000000000379a70
r4: 0x0000000090a18ab4 r5: 0x0000000000379a70 r6:
0x00000000ffffffff r7: 0x0000000006211000
r8: 0x0000000000001b40 r9: 0x0000000000379a70 r10:
0x00000000000006cd r11: 0x000000006f5f8ab4
r12: 0x0000000000000001 r13: 0x0000000000000000 r14:
0x00000000bfffe460 r15: 0x0000000000000001
r16: 0x00000000003eb130 r17: 0x0000000000000000 r18:
0x0000000000000000 r19: 0x0000000000000000
r20: 0x00000000a36527f4 r21: 0x00000000ffffffff r22:
0x00000000bfffd470 r23: 0x0000000000000000
r24: 0x0000000000000000 r25: 0x000000000211042c r26:
0x00000000003edb00 r27: 0x0000000000000000
r28: 0x0000000000000001 r29: 0x0000000000378d60 r30:
0x00000000bfffd0c0 r31: 0x0000000002148b9c
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http://www.ernestphillips.com
Help protect your digital rights and mine! www.digitalconsumer.org
"Unlike power, force does not induce compliance: the exercise of
force is instead an admission that compliance cannot be induced by
other noncoercive means." -Robert Jackman, Power Without Force
On Aug 21, 2005, at 9:57 AM, Graham Booker wrote:
> More likely than not, something is printed in the System's Console
> (/Applications/Utilities/Console.app). Anything in there?
>
>
> On Aug 21, 2005, at 5:40 AM, Ernest Phillips wrote:
>
>
>> I am having an odd issue where a previously fine recent TOT built
>> could no longer launch. I tried a new build, with with no change.
>> The program draws the Buddies window with the conversation browser
>> set to half wait... waits a few seconds... and then seems to quit
>> without so much as an error message. The console never comes up.
>> Any ideas? Tomorrow, I'll start digging through the prefs, if
>> nobody has ideas.
>> --
>> Ernest Phillips - <[email protected]>
>> http://www.ernestphillips.com
>>
>> Help protect your digital rights and mine! www.digitalconsumer.org
>>
>> "Unlike power, force does not induce compliance: the exercise of
>> force is instead an admission that compliance cannot be induced by
>> other noncoercive means." -Robert Jackman, Power Without Force
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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