Re: Financial allocation poll stage 3

On Wednesday, August 03, 2016 04:41:52 PM lopp-ruvOiOuSH0dWk0Htik3J/[email protected] wrote:
> Here are my two cents. Some of the tasks in this spreadsheet are extremely
> minor and don't deserve their own point, so to speak. For example the
> Chome browser warning and legal FAQ, should belong under a single task
> called Website re-design.

Just don't vote for them then :)

We cannot remove things from the poll just because we don't like them, that 
would look like rigging the vote. I considered to at least merge them into 
something else which requests the same, but they sounded too distinct.

> One really important thing I don't even see on there is making Freenet apt
> and rpm packages. Packages installable from a project repository. If you
> ever hope to get into Tails one day, you'll have to bite the bullet and do
> this.

Now I don't claim that the task list is complete by any means, but to be able 
to actually reach a decision, there needs to be time limit for changing things 
around.
And there have been over 2 months of time to add tasks to the list. If people 
didn't add the stuff during that time, perhaps just consider this as a vote 
indication of "not important enough".
Remember the bigger picture here: Our donation campaign asked for money to 
fund 12 months of programming, and 3 have already passed. So we need to move 
on quickly.

(With regards to Tails for example, the problem is they want a Debian package 
- and we cannot get one done right now because the bcprov library Debian 
provides is too old. Search the mailing list archives for "Debian", this has 
been discussed here.)
 
> Another thing. You should make user participation as easy as possible.
> Create a web poll on the tasks or a web form that automatically allocates
> points from a total available. Try that in Freenet with WoT if you are
> worried about spam voting.

It took 3 months of the desired 12 months to get a non-automated poll 
finished. Doing an automated one might have taken longer than the time we 
wanted money for in the first place :D

But to be serious: I don't think it makes sense to automate something for its 
first use. The whole algorithm of the poll is new, we don't even yet know 
whether it will be useful for our goal. No need to automate it before we even 
know we need it more than once.

> Also people
> with a conflict of interest shouldn't really vote. xor will be biased,
> understandably because he stands to benefit most. That's an example not a
> slur against xor. You should leave voting to users.

If people vote to exclude me, I will of course accept that :)

But before you do so, please at least give me a chance to defend my votes by 
reading my explanation of them in the other thread. It shows that I'm just 
voting for the stuff which I was advocating already while I still was a 
volunteer:
https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/2016-August/039133.html

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