Re: Internationalization on the new site

Florent Daigniere <[email protected]> Sun, 30 Oct 2016 19:10:36 +0100
Newsgroups	gmane.network.freenet.devel
Message-ID	<[email protected]>
On Sun, 2016-10-30 at 17:47 +0000, Ian Clarke wrote:
> I'm open to AWS, however if Dan has already built on Jekyll will there
> be a lot of work to switch to something like Hugo?


I don't think so; We don't need any fancy feature.

> Still an imperfect solution to the internationalization problem, but
> perhaps we just need to accept that.



There is no silver-bullet without server-side support... and AWS can't
help us with that yet (you can have different origins depending on paths
but not headers).

> Florent, if we decide to go with AWS, will you have time to to set
> things up?
> Ian.
>  


Yes, AWS is something I've practised recently and it won't be a
problem... The only real question is how we will deal with the billing
(few cents a month but it has to be paid by card).

Florent


> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 12:37 PM, Florent Daigniere nextgens@freenetproje
> ct.org
> wrote:
> I forgot the main advantage of the solution I'm proposing:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> AWS will get us a free wildcard certificate for everything we host on
> 
> their infrastructure (we're currently paying for it and it will come
> due
> 
> for renewal in April) without us having to fill in any paperwork (it's
> 
> been a problem in the past).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Florent
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2016-10-30 at 18:33 +0100, Florent Daigniere wrote:
> 
> > My favourite solution would be based on AWS:
> > 
> > S3 for storage, cloudfront as a CDN in front
> > 
> > A Lambda function to trigger rebuilds when the bucket is updated (or
> > an
> > api-endpoint we'd get github to trigger on commit)
> > 
> > 
> > As for the static-page generator, I am allergic to ruby's ecosystem.
> > Not
> > because it doesn't work but because maintaining the dependencies
> > over-
> > time is just impossible.
> > 
> > I'd suggest
> > https://gohugo.io/ (a static page generator built on golang -
> > static)
> > https://github.com/ryansb/hugo-lambda
> > or Pelican (a python-based one that's maintained/available in pip)
> > 
> > Florent
> > 
> > On Sun, 2016-10-30 at 16:51 +0000, Ian Clarke wrote:
> > > On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 11:37 AM, Dan Roberts [email protected]
> > > wrote:Shall I proceed for the moment assuming that we're using
> > > github
> > > pages?
> > > 
> > > If we abandon github pages, that frees me to identify and select a
> > > more
> > > 
> > > i18n friendly site generator, so I haven't put much more work into
> > > the
> > > 
> > > Jekyll version. At present the Jekyll version's English
> > > translation
> > > is
> > > 
> > > effectively complete, however I do think some content curation
> > > will
> > > be
> > > 
> > > necessary to better fit the new format.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I think this requires discussion, let's consider the options.  I
> > > think
> > > we can
> > > all agree that we're looking for a solution that is a) cheap or
> > > free
> > > and b)
> > > hosted by a 3rd party, so we don't have to worry about
> > > security/scalability/etc.
> > > Github pages is definitely the easiest, and it's free, and you're
> > > already down
> > > the road with that through Jekyll, but it sounds like the
> > > experience
> > > for
> > > non-English-speaking users will be suboptimal, perhaps relying on
> > > a
> > > JavaScript
> > > powered redirect, which itself may rely on a 3rd-party service
> > > since
> > > JavaScript
> > > apparently can't tell what the user's preferred language is (even
> > > though it is
> > > part of every HTTP request).  It is also worrying that Github
> > > Pages
> > > doesn't
> > > support HTTPS for a custom domain - might this result in broken
> > > inbound links?
> > > Google App Engine gives us a lot more flexibility, but it would
> > > also
> > > be a
> > > reasonable amount of additional coding, and probably wouldn't be
> > > as
> > > amenable to
> > > collaborative editing as Github Pages.  GAE isn't free, but the
> > > cost
> > > is likely
> > > negligible given how much traffic we get.
> > > A possible compromise would be a simple redirecting service on
> > > Google
> > > App Engine
> > > which only served to identify the user's preferred language, and
> > > then
> > > redirect
> > > to the appropriate page on Github Pages (or set a cookie that is
> > > visible from
> > > JavaScript).  Again, more work, and could be messy (we'd probably
> > > need
> > > to use a
> > > different subdomain for the Github Pages site).
> > > 
> > > Thoughts?  What other options are there?
> > > 
> > > Ian.
> > > Ian Clarke
> > > Founder, The Freenet Project
> > > Email: [email protected]
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