Re: Ian et al: Poll conclusions

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On Sunday, November 27, 2016 09:29:45 PM Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> [email protected] writes:
> > There are some tough administrative decisions remaining to make about
> > stage 3, namely which voters to exclude from stage 3 because they look
> > like a sybil attack.
> 
> I don’t like this behind-closed-doors-guessing-about-sybil.

That's OK, here's what happened:
While most participants of the poll from IRC have been known in the community 
for years, 70% of the anonymous FMS participants created their identity within 
a month of the poll's announcement, as measured by my instance of FMS which 
has been running for years.

Now one might say that this is conclusive enough and I should just publish the 
results without the sybils.

But the initial problem which this thread is about doesn't stop there:
There will most certainly be some controversy about what to do first because a 
poll of something like 70 items will certainly not cause any winner with a big 
majority, it will be a close call.

So someone has to make a decision then. And then we're again left with the 
initial problem: Ian doesn't seem to have the time to make decisions.

And even if he does:
Then we decided for *one* thing to do first. So we start it, and it is 
finished some day.
And then we *again* need to decide what to do next.
And then Ian again has no time.
So we repeat this 70 times now or what?

So the reason I created this thread is not primarily because I need an answer 
to the specific sybil problem; but because I suspect that the poll as a whole 
will create even more delay after that.

We're just too few people for such an overengineered mechanism.
It'd work if we were a company of 100 and could delegate a whole employee 
solely to it. Which is probably what Ian had designed it for in the first 
place, he was talking about his experience as a project manager in his first 
post about it...

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