Re: Ian et al: Poll conclusions
| Newsgroups | gmane.network.freenet.devel |
|---|---|
| Organization | Freenet Project |
| Message-ID | <3982142.nvCQyHEiGc@1337h4x0r> |
On Sunday, November 27, 2016 09:29:45 PM Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > [email protected] writes: > > There are some tough administrative decisions remaining to make about > > stage 3, namely which voters to exclude from stage 3 because they look > > like a sybil attack. > > I don’t like this behind-closed-doors-guessing-about-sybil. That's OK, here's what happened: While most participants of the poll from IRC have been known in the community for years, 70% of the anonymous FMS participants created their identity within a month of the poll's announcement, as measured by my instance of FMS which has been running for years. Now one might say that this is conclusive enough and I should just publish the results without the sybils. But the initial problem which this thread is about doesn't stop there: There will most certainly be some controversy about what to do first because a poll of something like 70 items will certainly not cause any winner with a big majority, it will be a close call. So someone has to make a decision then. And then we're again left with the initial problem: Ian doesn't seem to have the time to make decisions. And even if he does: Then we decided for *one* thing to do first. So we start it, and it is finished some day. And then we *again* need to decide what to do next. And then Ian again has no time. So we repeat this 70 times now or what? So the reason I created this thread is not primarily because I need an answer to the specific sybil problem; but because I suspect that the poll as a whole will create even more delay after that. We're just too few people for such an overengineered mechanism. It'd work if we were a company of 100 and could delegate a whole employee solely to it. Which is probably what Ian had designed it for in the first place, he was talking about his experience as a project manager in his first post about it... _______________________________________________ Devl mailing list [email protected] https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
signature.asc
(application/pgp-signature, 836 B)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABCAAGBQJYO0tVAAoJEMtmZ+8tjWt5BqcP/08nMBYa+rqnkS6Y7STktRAD sINgcT5T/hwpK2ooecAtFaBxz8EpmIArAKJgES3TUOzmZNTMfNLFfaHPk1ZB/guE JMqK78b7ABQpAtr5YN36XEQB9gRB2EyDq1pCtV2MNj1mVJmrZ22UvjSxhUN+7SFo FrfeNnFHbMRWmdra1xzMuQ4lmXLNyaNhKYf3WsEPIGo/EA1zEWemv6BtzLKnVStt TQ9WuOCYHDUGgwNv7jdj86XkzLlx4T/XufF83k7aPiUeqi75hYiSio6OYCbKJ7Ly mJDeSmUD1H+HeKV/oUcWNaLjtPLQK18b4cXCeXOxmJdihZBr5JHqzoO4Aj7hYFIr olG5YrtOwcAuwZU2yVtGk5hlmuqeYJ1T6L3HVwOxjpFj/nLs2YhRrjiA2kphrkVu Dj+DEb/csQ+LTAhfWgroXN4PSuAhyOhlAE4CxsRlP5Q/t+nLD5upbM6gs+WQhs3G bXdcDzh3SVn2D9PkzOIh3xuwXnEfl31Afk5v3uXL4KOlYM70Qo2A84tmFMSbW5Ji MZriW5TLuf88bbLia6PIbQv4kAbYcJfsosxK+KtwnixDnhmab9AQ2ZVwn0LGO0Qh t5Q+RKUvepSN/mhTxfdYN5IX5c3gLeGcl1/8NLkZJn8Y8mP8mhpNnM79tS6aoioz OjhgTW9Uq/dRAUNLOdWf =KfqV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----