Re: Alternate evaluations to get a robust top 20; was: Poll results available; Temporary quit as potential employee

Matthew Toseland <[email protected]> Wed, 14 Dec 2016 14:45:10 +0000

Newsgroups	gmane.network.freenet.devel
Message-ID	<[email protected]>

On 14/12/16 12:28, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> Arne Babenhauserheide writes:
>
>> Arne Babenhauserheide writes:
>>> The most robust result of the poll is: we should definitely do these
>>> five tasks:
>>>
>>> - Darknet invitation bundles (requires single use references)
>>> - Improve FProxy CSS3 support to allow better Freesite UI
>>> - Friend requests, like in Facebook
>>> - Short node references
>>> - Keepalive
>> …
>>> - Finishing the first iteration of Web of Trust speed fixes (1)
>>> - Fixing the installers (2)
>>>
>>> These 7 tasks together are already estimated as 17 person-weeks, which
>>> would leave us 15% buffer for unforseen problems.
> …
>> Also the first two items in xors evaluation are also in this short-list,
>> so we can just start with finding people who can do these two — *Darknet*
>> *invitation bundles* and *fixing the installers* — in parallel to any
>> discussions about which other tasks we want to do.
> (1) Darknet invitation bundles: Feature for adding a single use node
>     reference to an installer executable. People could hand out the
>     installer executable to their friends to allow them to connect by
>     Darknet instantly.
>     See https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=166#c11290
>     (an overview of the requirements and options for invites)
>     and https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=1342
>     ("create a bundle installer")

There's a whole thicket of bugs here. Doing this right is quite a lot of
work. For example, if Alice is not port forwarded, she should still be
able to send an invite to Bob, using her port-forwarded peers. This
interacts with FOAF. If you chase the links between bugs you should find
some of my ideas on this.
>
> (2) Fix the installers (windows first, then packages for linux)
>     See https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=1276
>     and https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=1275
>     and https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=5892
>     and linked issues.
> …
>> Ian has been very good at ensuring that coders get their pay, so that
>> should not be a problem (thank you, Ian!), once we have a system
>> in place with which we have some quality control of the results.
>>
>> So, how do we proceed to find people who will accept money for realizing
>> these milestones?
> Ideas? Can we start by putting up an offer in Freenet-internal channels?
>
> How much money should we offer?
>
> Best wishes,
> Arne
>
> PS: hopstolive

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