Re: preserving the links to the wiki

On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 02:01:02 PM Ian Clarke wrote:
> If necessary we can continue to pay for our own server, however I think it
> would be better for everyone if we could migrate over to solutions that
> don't require that we manage our own servers, such as Github Issues for
> bugtracking.

I've looked at GitHub issues for bugtracking, they are not an option:

The most simple issue with it would be that it would require us to ask every 
pre-existing bug reporter to allow us acccess to their GitHub account so we 
can link their issues against their account.
We have 1158 user accounts, so this isn't going to happen.
Also consider that we're a paranoia focused project, so even our most active 
contributors might not grant access.
It also is very unlikely that GitHub can provide a 1:1 mapping of the 
datamodel of Mantis, so we would lose lots of critical information.

There ARE hosting services which specialize on managed hosting of Mantis 
itself, that would be the perfect option IMHO:
Given that us trying to migrate a Wiki resulted in 4 Wikis, we should probably 
quit trying to pretend we have the resources to migrate things to different 
software and keep using the one we're familiar with.

I cannot name a single critical feature which Mantis is lacking for our 
purposes anyway, and I am probably the one who currently uses our Mantis the 
most.

> These servers are a time drain and a security vulnerability.

The security impact can be lessened by frequent backup (I can offer that as 
well) and hosting our actual website + binaries elsewhere, which I am fine 
with.

> If Florent is no-longer willing to do it, we simply don't have anyone with
> the expertise and time to manage a server

Uh, I just offered to maintain it!?

I have been running my own server with a dozen of services for like a decade, 
I'm not new to that. I even wrote a 90 page documentation of its settings :D

> and nor should we need to since there are free and widely used hosted
> services that do almost everything we need to do. Ian.

If you can tell me one which can provide free Mantis hosting or at least a 
full mapping of the Mantis data model I will have a look at it.
- Just because something is also called "bugtracker" doesn't mean that 
migrating to it wouldn't cause deleting 80% of the information we have stored 
in Mantis.

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