Re: preserving the links to the wiki

Florent Daigniere <[email protected]> Sat, 25 Feb 2017 13:34:24 +0100
Newsgroups	gmane.network.freenet.devel
Message-ID	<[email protected]>
On Sat, 2017-02-25 at 13:18 +0100, Florent Daigniere wrote:
> On Sat, 2017-02-25 at 13:02 +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> > Florent Daigniere <[email protected]> writes:
> > 
> > > > We could also move more of our discussions to FMS. It’s code has
> > > > nowadays been checked by at least two established users, and
> > > > most
> > > > interactive development already happens over IRC.
> > > 
> > > Or we could just migrate to slack (like Ian suggested ages ago).
> > > It's
> > > not like there has been any meaningful, productive, development-
> > > related
> > > discussion on this mailing list in the last few years.
> > 
> > How is moving our actively used, freenode-provided IRC to
> > centralized,
> 
> 
> Freenode is centralized too; Slack has IRC and XMPP gateways
> https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/201727913-Connect-to-Slack-ov
> er-IRC-and-XMPP
> if the goal is to increase accessibility, Slack is better than IRC.
> 
> > proprietary Slack comparable to moving our little used, self-
> > maintained mailing list
> 
> 
> We can't afford to run it anymore, that's the point...
> Slack can be archived (and indexed by search engines) just like our
> mailing lists
> http://slackarchive.io/
> 
> >  to decentralized, pseudonymous, free licensed,
> > freenet-hosted FMS, which is where our active users already are?
> > 
> 
> 
> You are in lalaland if you think that we can do what currently do with
> our mailing lists over Freenet. Almost two decades in the making,
> we've
> failed at building an ecosystem of tools people can use.
> 
> Are you seriously suggesting that "having a working fred, working FMS"
> is an acceptable requirement for accessing what will be our future
> support mailing list?
> 


Oh, and I forgot the obvious: it can do emails too:
https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/206819278-Send-emails-to-Slack

If "open-source" is a requirement, it boils down to finding a reliable
hoster for one of the many clones...

https://about.mattermost.com/pricing/

Florent

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