Re: Freenet news in the web interface

Matthew Toseland <toad-EI5O+8PHWbJeeLb3ft/[email protected]> Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:21:03 +0000
Newsgroups gmane.network.freenet.general
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On Saturday 12 December 2009 15:19:23 alex wrote:
> Hello,
>=20
> for some time I've been thinking about points that make me disconnect fro=
m=20
> freenet from time to time. One of them, I think, is that once you manage =
to=20
> connect, you feel quite alone in there.
>=20
> Freesites are static in nature, there's a feeling that you're in the midd=
le=20
> of the night and here and there you stump into unrelated freesites. Index=
=20
> sites mitigate somewhat this feeling, but not much. Frost and FMS, they'r=
e=20
> not trivial to setup nor in the web interface.
>=20
> Sure, I lurk in the dev mailing lists. That's great since I see activity=
=20
> and community there. But, putting myself in the shoes of an average user =
(in=20
> the end, I'm a techie), that's only trying freenet via the web interface,=
 I=20
> think there's something (that many other projects do) that could do, with=
=20
> little effort, much to diminish the feeling that freenet is a bunch of=20
> freesites.
>=20
> I'm namely proposing to add to the freenet interface (in the welcome page=
=20
> or a dedicated page) an official announcement section, where the freenet=
=20
> team publish news related to the project. Basically, the same updates tha=
t=20
> go thru dev, could be distilled in a (weekly?) post that the node would=20
> present to the user.
>=20
> This way one feels that things are moving even without having chat yet, n=
or=20
> subscribing to mailing lists. Plain users would have quick access to a=20
> minimal but regularly updated "what's happening with freenet" page,=20
> sanctioned by the devs. I'm not talking about entering into conflicting=20
> debate or technical detail, just plain understandable updates that show=20
> that the project is well alive and moving along.
>=20
> What do you think? I know that some freesites are sanctioned and linked i=
n=20
> the "browse freenet" page, but I'm aiming at something even more basic:=20
> "the" freenet team news. A "latest news" section.

Ways to implement this sort of thing (which is probably a good idea):
1. Official Freesite. The problem is people will trust it, so if the privat=
e key were ever leaked we'd be in deep trouble. The fix for this is Revocab=
le SSKs. This will happen eventually. There are easy ways to do RSKs and ha=
rd ways, but we can do a reasonably easy way which is forward compatible.
2. Per-build update notes. We could either include a file with the build, o=
r insert it as a CHK and have the node fetch it. We could display it as a d=
ismissable alert or something, and have it come back when the next build co=
mes out, unless the user tells it to go away forever.
3. Something in between. An official SSK containing regular updates, for ex=
ample. This has the same revocation problems as an official freesite, altho=
ugh there are easier solutions than RSKs, such as just tying it to the auto=
=2Dupdater (which has its own revocation mechanism).

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