Re: Fwd: [freenet-dev] US government tries to bringback the Clipper Chip - on steroids
"Matthew Findley" <[email protected]> Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:18:27 -0500
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0549115359== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0091_01CB5F5B.132FE640" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01CB5F5B.132FE640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Until the law is actually PROPOSED this is nothing but fear mongering. = The news is notably dense about technology (and everything else really) = and while I'm sure something is about to be purposed; likely it's = directed at companies like research in motion that actually encrypt = their users data for them rather then companies that provide users with = the ability to encrypt their own data. A distinction most certainly = lost on the mass media. From: Tom Sparks=20 Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:05 PM To: [email protected]=20 Subject: Re: [freenet-chat] Fwd: [freenet-dev] US government tries to = bringback the Clipper Chip - on steroids --- On Tue, 28/9/10, Matthew Toseland <toad-EI5O+8PHWbJeeLb3ft/[email protected]> = wrote: From: Matthew Toseland <toad-EI5O+8PHWbJeeLb3ft/[email protected]> Subject: [freenet-chat] Fwd: [freenet-dev] US government tries = to bring back the Clipper Chip - on steroids To: [email protected] Received: Tuesday, 28 September, 2010, 10:13 PM Much of the below is second hand or half-remembered, feel free = to correct me, I have some URLs at the end. The strategy issues at the = end might be interpreted as condoning illegal filesharing; my views on = copyright are well known, filesharing is a legitimate technology, and = there are legitimate privacy and censorship issues. Besides, we have = already discussed this on IRC. And of course, IANAL! EFF on recent proposal: http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/09/government-seeks NY Times story on recent proposal: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/27/us/27wiretap.html Ninth Circuit: Crypto export controls unconstitutional http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/04/21-29 MPAA: Can we use ACTA to block WikiLeaks? = http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100915/10324411026/mpaa-wants-to-know-= if-acta-can-be-used-to-block-wikileaks.shtml yet more idiots at work, the internet is based on peering ( = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peering ), and these new on-Demand services = (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VoD) need big coastly data centers = (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_center) as close to the end-user as = possible or P2P networks tom_a_sparks Light travels faster then sound, which is why some people appear = bright, until you hear them speak=20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- _______________________________________________ chat mailing list [email protected] Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at = http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[email protected]?subject=3Dunsubscribe ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01CB5F5B.132FE640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.18943"></HEAD> <BODY style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 10px; PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-TOP: = 15px"=20 id=3DMailContainerBody leftMargin=3D0 topMargin=3D0 = CanvasTabStop=3D"true"=20 name=3D"Compose message area"> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Until the law is actually <SPAN=20 style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; = FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; = mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; = mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New = Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; = mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">PROPOSED=20 this is nothing but fear mongering. The news is notably dense = about=20 technology (and everything else really) and while I'm sure something is = about to=20 be purposed; likely it's directed at companies like research in = motion that=20 actually encrypt their users data for them rather then companies that = provide=20 users with the ability to encrypt their own data. A distinction = most=20 certainly lost on the mass media.</SPAN></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Tahoma"> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"> <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20 title=3D"mailto:tom_a_sparks-/[email protected] CTRL + Click to follow = link"=20 href=3D"mailto:tom_a_sparks-/[email protected]">Tom Sparks</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:05 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3D"mailto:[email protected] CTRL + Click to follow link" = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> = </DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [freenet-chat] Fwd: [freenet-dev] US government = tries=20 to bringback the Clipper Chip - on steroids</DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <TABLE border=3D0 cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>--- On <B>Tue, 28/9/10, Matthew Toseland <I><<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:toad-EI5O+8PHWbJeeLb3ft/[email protected]">toad-EI5O+8PHWbJeeLb3ft/[email protected]</A>&g= t;</I></B>=20 wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:=20 Matthew Toseland <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:toad-EI5O+8PHWbJeeLb3ft/[email protected]">toad-EI5O+8PHWbJeeLb3ft/[email protected]</A>&g= t;<BR>Subject:=20 [freenet-chat] Fwd: [freenet-dev] US government tries to bring = back the=20 Clipper Chip - on steroids<BR>To: <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A><BR>Re= ceived:=20 Tuesday, 28 September, 2010, 10:13 PM<BR><BR> <DIV class=3DplainMail>Much of the below is second hand or=20 half-remembered, feel free to correct me, I have some URLs at = the end.=20 The strategy issues at the end might be interpreted as condoning = illegal=20 filesharing; my views on copyright are well known, filesharing = is a=20 legitimate technology, and there are legitimate privacy and = censorship=20 issues. Besides, we have already discussed this on IRC. And of = course,=20 IANAL!<BR><BR><BR>EFF on recent proposal:<BR><A=20 href=3D"http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/09/government-seeks"=20 = target=3D_blank>http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/09/government-seeks</A>= <BR>NY=20 Times story on recent proposal:<BR><A=20 href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/27/us/27wiretap.html"=20 = target=3D_blank>http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/27/us/27wiretap.html</A><B= R>Ninth=20 Circuit: Crypto export controls unconstitutional<BR><A=20 = title=3D"http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/04/21-29 CTRL + = Click to follow link"=20 href=3D"http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/04/21-29"=20 = target=3D_blank>http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/04/21-29</A><BR>MP= AA:=20 Can we use ACTA to block WikiLeaks?<BR><A=20 = title=3D"http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100915/10324411026/mpaa-wants= -to-know-if-acta-can-be-used-to-block-wikileaks.shtml CTRL + Click = to follow link"=20 = href=3D"http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100915/10324411026/mpaa-wants-= to-know-if-acta-can-be-used-to-block-wikileaks.shtml"=20 = target=3D_blank>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100915/10324411026/mpa= a-wants-to-know-if-acta-can-be-used-to-block-wikileaks.shtml</A><BR></DIV= ></BLOCKQUOTE>yet=20 more idiots at work, the internet is based on peering (=20 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peering ), and these new on-Demand = services=20 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VoD) need big coastly data = centers=20 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_center) as close to the = end-user as=20 possible or P2P networks<BR><BR>tom_a_sparks<BR>Light travels = faster then=20 sound, which is why some people appear bright, until you hear them = speak</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR> =20 <P> <HR> <P></P>_______________________________________________<BR>chat mailing=20 list<BR>[email protected]<BR>Archived:=20 http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general<BR>Unsubscribe at=20 http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat<BR>Or=20 mailto:[email protected]?subject=3Dunsubscribe</BODY></HTML= > ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01CB5F5B.132FE640-- --===============0549115359== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ chat mailing list [email protected] Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe --===============0549115359==--