Re: Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!

Matthew Toseland <toad-EI5O+8PHWbJeeLb3ft/[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.network.freenet.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
I am of the opinion that the unstable network is irrelevant at the
moment. :)

On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 07:21:17AM -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 08:47:14 +0000, Roger Hayter <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > In message <20050225213702.15855c33-pd0mJjIfunkytbH/[email protected]>, Conrad J. 
> > Sabatier <[email protected]> writes
> > >On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:31:21 +0000, Roger Hayter <[email protected]>
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> In message <e1d8c65205022512002c2291d7-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>, Todd Walton
> > >> <[email protected]> writes
> > >> >On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:30:33 -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier
> > >> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >Please excuse the crossposting, but I felt this was important
> > >enough > >to make sure it was seen by those who may not be subscribed
> > >to this > >or that list.
> > >> >
> > >> >Right.  But the No-No about crossposting is that there are likely
> > >to > >be others who would not agree that it's important enough to
> > >> >cross-post.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Then it's hard to be off-topic in chat, isn't it?  For instance, I
> > >> might  remark that probably not many stable nodes will be upgraded
> > >> unless some  one builds a snapshot and increments the build number.
> > >
> > >Well, the dual-network capability is not enabled by default in the
> > >source code, and has never been enabled in precompiled packages, so
> > >anyone wanting to use it would still have to get the sources,
> > >uncomment the two relevant lines in Version.java, and build a new
> > >freenet.jar for themselves.
> > >
> > >In other words, it's still pretty much of an "elite" feature, and
> > >will most likely remain so.
> > >
> > 
> > Maybe I misunderstood you:  I thought you were hoping for many stable 
> > nodes (rather than dual-network nodes themselves) to be updated.  All
> > I  was saying was that not many are likely to be updated unless you
> > have a  new build number and new snapshots available for said stable
> > nodes. -- 
> > Roger Hayter
> 
> No, I just wanted to try to get the word out to as wide a potential
> audience as possible.  I would *hope* that people involved enough in
> freenet to undertake running a dual-network node would be subscribed to
> at least one or two of these lists, but it's impossible, of course, to
> know for sure if they are, or to which ones, so I just used the "spray
> paint" approach.  :-)
> 
> The update itself doesn't really warrant a new build number, IMHO (or
> maybe it does; I don't know).  At any rate, for the "average" stable
> user, the update is completely irrelevant and can be safely ignored;
> it's really only the "elite" group of dual-network node users that
> needed to be informed, and I just wanted to cover all the bases in one
> fell swoop.
> 
> The reason I felt it was so important was that, prior to this update,
> the dual-network functionality was, in effect, pretty badly broken (at
> least from the stable side), so I felt there was a certain urgency in
> getting the word out.  I also feel very strongly that the dual-network
> nodes serve a very vital function, bridging the two otherwise completely
> separate networks and helping to propagate data between the two, thereby
> helping to enrich freenet's content for everyone.
> 
> I hope I've cleared up any possible misunderstandings now.  :-)
> 
> -- 
> Conrad J. Sabatier <[email protected]> -- "In Unix veritas"
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Matthew J Toseland - toad-EI5O+8PHWbJeeLb3ft/[email protected]
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