Re: Device Fingerprinting

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In the thesis abstract the claim is made that their techniques work 
against systems using NTP. It wouldn't be much of a Ph. D. project if it 
didn't.

The abstract is at: 
http://www.caida.org/outreach/papers/2005/fingerprinting/index.xml

Checking out the full paper, it seems that these folks have linear 
analysis method that can accommodate BSD and Linux style NTP update 
daemons. However, it looks to me like this method might run into trouble 
when trying to identify one system out of thousands or millions. Their 
sample size was not that large. Also, they reported that laptop clock skew 
was effected by battery vs AC power, so there's another wrinkle.

Jeff Furgal
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Matthew Toseland <toad-EI5O+8PHWbJeeLb3ft/[email protected]> 
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Re: [freenet-chat] Device Fingerprinting






This _IS_ a timing attack. And it was discussed just recently on this
list. At present Freenet never communicates absolute timestamps, and the
attack seems to be mainly aimed at NATs.

Can this be used if NTP is installed to keep the clock synchronized?

On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 10:47:02AM +0100, Adam Duck wrote:
> Hello freenetters,
> 
> http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/security/0,2000061744,39183346,00.htm
> 
> could this be a possible threat to freenet's anonymity?  Perhaps in
> conjunction with a timing-attack?
> 
> bye, Adam.
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