Re: Take down notices on Bittorrent

On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 01:06:28PM +0000, Jonathan Doe wrote:
> Bit of a newbie question this but the node that returned you the data may 
> just be relaying it from another node correct?

Right. Unfortunately there are a couple of mechanisms that can leak some
information about whether the node had cached the data - plausible
deniability about whether you had the data isn't as strong as it could
be. Like everything in freenet we're working on this.

> and there is no way of backtracing once the request hops one node?

In theory.
> 
> >It depends on how they view uploaders on freenet. Is the uploader:
> >a) The original inserter? It is hard to find him.
> >b) The node that returned you the data?
> >c) Any node, which in a working network, can return the data?
> >
> >On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 12:21:10PM +0000, Jonathan Doe wrote:
> >> It seems the movie studios have adopted a new tactic in the fight 
> >against
> >> p2p. They are employing a company called BayTSP to scan the common P2P
> >> networks for copyrighted material , especially new movie releases, being
> >> uploaded ( note they arnt looking for downloaders , only uploaders. Of
> >> cource on Bittorrent you are both !) . Now BayTSP claim they have
> >> fingerprinted the files the look for ( hashed probably) so renaming or
> >> modifiying slighly dosn't throw them off. They then snag your IP address
> >> and fire off a nasty email to your ISP demanding your ISP stops you 
> >sharing
> >> thier material. In my case the ISP caved in an sent me a "stop it" email
> >> listing the details of the file they are objecting to.
> >> SO the big question ... will this approach work on freenet ?
> >> I would also suggest you get ready for an influx of filesharing addicts 
> >to
> >> freenet as this is causing a lot of traffic in the forums and i have
> >> already seen freenet being put forward as a solution to this attack :-) 
> >,
> >> it certainly seems to be the ideal solution to me but i am no expert.
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