Re: Proposal: UP&P

On 3/6/07, Florent Daignière (NextGen$) <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> * Matthew Toseland <toad-EI5O+8PHWbJeeLb3ft/[email protected]> [2007-03-06 01:37:52]:
>
> > Universal Plug and Play support
> > ===============================
> >
> > I suggest that we need UP&P support. The main caveats are that it is not
> > usable on an untrusted LAN, so we need to ask the user, and that we may
> > not easily be able to distinguish between a local trusted LAN and an
> > ISP's LAN. It is also reported that UP&P works only around 50% of the
> > time when it is detected.
>
> Ok, let's feed the troll.
>
> >
> > However:
> > - It would significantly improve connection reliability. If for example
> >   all your peers are german and in germany all domestic IPs change every
> >   24 hours, if you are down for 24 hours you are lost for good.
>
> Do we have any stats regarding how many of our users are double-natted?
> I know that in france most people had DSL connectivity before the
> Wireless craze ; meaning that most users are likely to have two
> different natting appliances (the routing modem and the wireless AP).
>
>
> > - Right now good connectivity relies on getting a few geek nodes - nodes
> >   that are directly connected or port forwarded. UP&P would increase the
> >   proportion of such nodes dramatically.
>
> I am not sure it's an issue. I am idling on #freenet-refs on a regular
> basis to see how the installer performs and to see where users get
> stuck : most of them don't have connectivity problems.
>
>
That would be because if the user is tech savvy enough to get on IRC, they
can forward a port at their router...  DUH
I'm not saying people do or do not have connectivity problems, just that
this is a really bad way to judge.  ;-)

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