Re: Distributed Drive and Increased Usage

On Wednesday 14 May 2008 03:18, Florent Daignière wrote:
> * Daniel Cheng <[email protected]> [2008-05-14 08:26:54]:
> 
> > On 5/14/08, Matthew Toseland <toad-EI5O+8PHWbJeeLb3ft/[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 13 May 2008 14:36, [email protected] wrote:
> > > > Some times it needs a bit of discussion to be able to make idea's come
> > > > clear, lol, I am bad for missing a few steps in the thought process 
and
> > > > jumping over them.
> > > >
> > > > The first is FreeNet allows for a couple ways to be set up. As an OPEN
> > > > NET concept and it also allows for establishing a Private Network that
> > > > literally does not connect to anyone but a secured group, 10 People 
can
> > > > use it to establish a private Internet of there own and quite 
literally
> > > > ignore the fact there is an internet.
> > >
> > > Not true. Lots and lots of people seem to not get the darknet concept. 
Just
> > > because you only connect to your trusted friends, does not mean that 
your
> > > friends only connect to YOUR trusted friends: they will connect to THEIR
> > > trusted friends, which may not be the same as yours, although there will 
be a
> > > good deal of overlap. Some of them may connect to the opennet, but even
> > > without that, it is possible to have a global darknet. And to have it
> > > routable, hopefully, in a reasonably small number of hops (= good
> > > performance), with Freenet 0.7.
> > 
> > Darknet user have to be motivated to add new trusted friends, and
> > their friends have to be motivated too. We don't have enough motivated
> > users..
> > 
> > In my experience, I have *tried* to convince two friends to run
> > freenet. One of them refused because of the disk space usage (this is
> > a lame reason, but still). The another friend installed that (and
> > found the installation quite managable), considered to add some
> > content, but don't want to start it because of the high memory usage.
> > I am too depressed to try to convince another friends.
> > 
> > If we want a real working darknet, I think we have to (sort from
> > lowest to highest priority):
> >   1) lower the memory usage (0.7.1 ?)
> > 
> 
> Here freenet takes less RAM than firefox.
> 
> >   2) easier friend finding.
> >       There was a facebook app for this, but it's not working.
> > 
> >   3) small (<128MiB) store mode
> >       Currently freenet is very slow without a good store/cache.
> 
> It can't possibly work without request resuming: such a small store will
> be poisoned by your requests.
> 
Request resuming is well up the priority list too, in fact it's a prerequisite 
for queue-on-disk imho.

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