Re: French law Hadopi

Matthew Toseland <toad-EI5O+8PHWbJeeLb3ft/[email protected]> Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:49:24 +0000
Newsgroups gmane.network.freenet.technical
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Monday 19 January 2009 22:15, 3BUIb3S50i 3BUIb3S50i wrote:
> I understand your logical position. But using Freenet, we can be
> accused of participating in a network facilitating piracy, even if we
> do not download copyrighted files ourselves. In this case, our
> Internet connection would be blocked wrongly. And it is possible that
> the French state to use this law as a pretext to censor its citizens
> annoying. So we are worried.

Does the law allow for people to be blocked arbitrarily? Who decides?
> 
> On 1/19/09, Matthew Toseland <toad-EI5O+8PHWbJeeLb3ft/[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Monday 19 January 2009 18:11, 3BUIb3S50i 3BUIb3S50i wrote:
> >> Yes and I use Freenet for legal use only. Like a lot of users! But we
> >> can not know what is in the datastores and in the freenet traffic. So,
> >> you think the French state does not attack Freenet or its users? I
> >> hope. We'll see...
> >
> > I didn't say that. All I said was if you are worried about having your
> > internet connection blocked it is presumably because you are downloading
> > illegal copyrighted files, and therefore that we don't want to have 
anything
> > to do with you.
> >>
> >> On 1/19/09, Matthew Toseland <toad-EI5O+8PHWbJeeLb3ft/[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > On Monday 19 January 2009 15:28, 3BUIb3S50i 3BUIb3S50i wrote:
> >> >> There is a break in the sanctions of french law Hadopi. Hadopi allow
> >> >> censured users to use television, telephone and maybe anothers
> >> >> payables services. So, victims will have a lot of censured ports, but
> >> >> not all. Some ports will continue to run. Can we found a method to
> >> >> override this censorship (with freenet)? e.g. encapsulate traffic into
> >> >> VoIP. This is very difficult: ISP can limit traffic only from/to its
> >> >> servers. What do you think? It's very important for french users.
> >> >> French users risk to left freenet soon... like Batosai. For example, I
> >> >> do not want to risk losing my Internet connection. The french
> >> >> community is afraid by this law. Some users have requested TCP support
> >> >> for hide freenet traffic in https, http etc. ISP will spy their users,
> >> >> so Darknet will not be sufficient.
> >> >
> >> > I assume this is some sort of law whereby those who download 
copyrighted
> >> > files
> >> > get their internet access cut? Please do not use Freenet to illegally
> >> > copy
> >> > copyrighted files. The Freenet Project cannot have anything to do with
> >> > piracy, as per Grokster vs MGM.
> >> >
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