RE: Quality of FreeS/WAN support

"Boulytchev, Vasiliy" <[email protected]> Tue, 3 Jun 2003 08:36:30 -0600
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IRC chan?  Its been ages since I cruised IRC, but I just got back into
it.  Trillian is my chat client everywhere I go, it has a very neat and
usable IRC interface.  So dont think it would be too klunky to start a
#freeswan on say efnet.
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am I dreaming?
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Vasiliy Boulytchev

Colorado Information Technologies Inc.

(719) 473-2800 x15

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	-----Original Message-----
	From: Mathieu Bonnet [mailto:[email protected]]=20
	Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:11 PM
	To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
	Cc: [email protected]
	Subject: Re: [Users] Quality of FreeS/WAN support
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	>   One of our (major) FreeS/WAN volunteers just said:
	>
	>   "FreeS/WAN is probably one of the best supported IPSec
implementations
	> out there..."
	> --  Ken Bantoff
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	I'm quite sure this is true, even if I didn't try to get support
from other
	implementations of IPSec.
	Since I've read a lot of messages in this mailing list, I've
learned more
	about IPSec and it helped a lot in my work. Thanks
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	>   The first question is simple, "How can we support FreeS/WAN
users
	> like _you_ better?".
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	The first idea I have about this, is to ask you if it is
possible to have a
	FreeS/WAN forum.
	This will surely avoid spams and viruses that are common place
in this
	mailing list. The bigest advantage I see in a forum will be the
grouping of
	subjects. (for users, establish zones about "FreeS/WAN 2.0",
"interaction
	with Cisco products", "interaction with Windows",  "Oportunistic
	Encryption", etc) Of course, this could be a big task to set a
forum, I'm
	just telling you how practical it can be.
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	>   The whole idea of FreeS/WAN was to do OE and not make just
another
	> IPsec system.  OE should be useful as it is, and should be
much more
	> useful soon with WAVEsec (see www.wavesec.org) and other
	> improvements coming soon.
	>
	>   For instance, what would convince you to re-configure your
hand
	> crafted VPN or X.509 mess move it all to OE?  Is there some
admin tool
	> that would make OE more useful then traditional VPN?  Is there
some
	> very common situation where a focused end user OE HOWTO for
_just_
	> that situation cause your users to want OE maybe?
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	I personally don't use OE for my IPSec settings but I am glad to
see you
	have many ideas about further development of FreeS/WAN!
=09
	Cheers
	Mathieu Bonnet
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	_______________________________________________
	Users mailing list
	[email protected]
	http://lists.freeswan.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
Mathieu Bonnet=20
  [mailto:[email protected]] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 02, =
2003 11:11=20
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> [email protected]; [email protected];=20
  [email protected]<BR><B>Cc:</B> =
[email protected]<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
  Re: [Users] Quality of FreeS/WAN support<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><!-- =
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  <P><FONT size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; One of our (major) FreeS/WAN =
volunteers just=20
  said:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; "FreeS/WAN is probably one of the =
best=20
  supported IPSec implementations<BR>&gt; out there..."<BR>&gt; --&nbsp; =
Ken=20
  Bantoff<BR><BR>I'm quite sure this is true, even if I didn't try to =
get=20
  support from other<BR>implementations of IPSec.<BR>Since I've read a =
lot of=20
  messages in this mailing list, I've learned more<BR>about IPSec and it =
helped=20
  a lot in my work. Thanks<BR><BR><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; The first =
question is=20
  simple, "How can we support FreeS/WAN users<BR>&gt; like _you_=20
  better?".<BR><BR>The first idea I have about this, is to ask you if it =
is=20
  possible to have a<BR>FreeS/WAN forum.<BR>This will surely avoid spams =
and=20
  viruses that are common place in this<BR>mailing list. The bigest =
advantage I=20
  see in a forum will be the grouping of<BR>subjects. (for users, =
establish=20
  zones about "FreeS/WAN 2.0", "interaction<BR>with Cisco products",=20
  "interaction with Windows",&nbsp; "Oportunistic<BR>Encryption", etc) =
Of=20
  course, this could be a big task to set a forum, I'm<BR>just telling =
you how=20
  practical it can be.<BR><BR><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; The whole idea of =
FreeS/WAN=20
  was to do OE and not make just another<BR>&gt; IPsec system.&nbsp; OE =
should=20
  be useful as it is, and should be much more<BR>&gt; useful soon with =
WAVEsec=20
  (see www.wavesec.org) and other<BR>&gt; improvements coming=20
  soon.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; For instance, what would convince =
you to=20
  re-configure your hand<BR>&gt; crafted VPN or X.509 mess move it all =
to=20
  OE?&nbsp; Is there some admin tool<BR>&gt; that would make OE more =
useful then=20
  traditional VPN?&nbsp; Is there some<BR>&gt; very common situation =
where a=20
  focused end user OE HOWTO for _just_<BR>&gt; that situation cause your =
users=20
  to want OE maybe?<BR><BR>I personally don't use OE for my IPSec =
settings but I=20
  am glad to see you<BR>have many ideas about further development of=20
  FreeS/WAN!<BR><BR>Cheers<BR>Mathieu=20
  Bonnet<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Users =
mailing=20
  list<BR>[email protected]<BR><A=20
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