Re: unsuitable protocols and standards that block innovation
Christian Grothoff <[email protected]> Wed, 13 Mar 2024 15:52:43 +0100
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Secure multiparty computation scalar product. See
https://grothoff.org/christian/bfh2017.pdf
(implemented as the 'scalarproduct' service)
On 3/13/24 15:47, Runa Loki Schmidt wrote:
> Talking about twitter like uses, I am really curious how a content curating algorithm would be implemented on a decentralised multicast network.
>
> These kind of algorithms have been a major point of attraction to that kind of platform (twitter, instagram, tiktok), as people want content that is broader than their ‘peer group’ but still filtered to their personal preferences.
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> On 11 March 2024 17:19:06 CET, carlo von lynX <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> This implements (1) from what I can see, and thus only reduces the amount
>> of data distributed a bit, but not the challenge of distributing
>> stuff to millions of recipients in a Twitter-like use case.
>>
>>> - The multicasting part looks very interesting. Can you expand on how that
>>> would work in a distributed network like gnunet? Because it specifically
>>> mentions a server solution which we cannot afford here:
>>>
>>>> In PSYC <https://about.psyc.eu/PSYC>, by contrast, the server will contact
>>> a set of servers, which will forward the news to another set of servers
>>> each, until all the recipients receive the news
>>
>> A multicast routing layer has been in the plans for GNUnet since before
>> we first came asking, which was around 2009. Research has been made on
>> how to do this, but there is no implementation as yet.
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>> In GNUnet, nodes would efficiently set up distribution trees to get all
>> data to everyone who needs it. If done properly it can handle Twitter-
>> and even television-like use cases with millions watching the same video
>> stream. The current status quo is that these distribution trees are
>> implemented within the cloud, thus you only get to enjoy their strengths
>> if you surrender your cookies to them and join the cloud hegemoths.
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