Re: Mojito: Kademlia for Gnutella in LimeWire

Which users are you talking about? :) Our goal was always to write a  
general purpose DHT and one of the next steps is to find applications  
for it. As for now and for LimeWire we will publish push proxies &  
altlocs of rare files in the DHT and LimeWire will automatically  
check the DHT if everything else fails. Keyword searches are a rather  
scary topic and I don't see the advantage of using a DHT for it.

  Roger


On Apr 9, 2007, at 7:05 AM, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:

> That sound far better than I had in my (sometimes flawed) memory!
> I had in mind, that you had deviated from the standard- 
> implementation, so
> hearing, that it is a standard kademlia is great!
>
> For which kinds of searches do you want to use it?
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> Should users fire off searches for hash, or should it also handle  
> keyword
> searches, or should it be ussed only by the backend to find additional
> sources and handle magnets (or be used somehow else)?
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> How is the efficiency?
>
> (That's the things, which are most itneresting to users, I think,  
> and so these
> are what interests me most for documenting for users)
>
> Best wishes,
> Arne
>
> Am Samstag, 7 de April de 2007 14:06 schrieb rogerkapsi:
>> That's a quite big topic. Mojito is technically just the name of our
>> Kademlia library. It's not as if we implemented a new algorithm.  
>> It's using
>> the same algorithm and implements the same set of operations (PING,
>> FIND_NODE, FIND_VALUE and STORE).
>>
>> So what you need to do is to implement the Kademlia algorithm  
>> first and use
>> the same message format for the operations later. The default message
>> format happens to be Gnutella compatible (the first 23 byte) and is
>> documented in our wiki.
>>
>> The big challenge with Kademlia is however that there are a bazillion
>> little details that nobody has thought about our written down.  
>> Working on
>> these things is quite time consuming.
>>
>> --- In [email protected], Arne Babenhauserheide  
>> <arne_bab@...> wrote:
>>> The general design principles (I know that's huge) and how it  
>>> differs
>>> from Kademlia, and why.
>>>
>>> The network specification: How can I communicate with a mojito?
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Arne
>>>
>>> Am Mittwoch, 4 de April de 2007 16:37 schrieb rogerkapsi:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> what would you like to know about Mojito?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>  Roger
>>>>
>>>> --- In [email protected], Arne Babenhauserheide  
>>>> <arne_bab@> wrote:
>>>>> Also you've been developing Mojito for quite some time now, and it
>>>>> will likely be very important for Gnutella, because it solves the
>>>>> problem of hash-queries by acknowledging, that search by hash is a
>>>>> different function from search by tag, but I haven't seen much  
>>>>> info
>>>>> on it in here.
>>>>
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