Re: Re: Gnutella 3

Hi Arne, that is a good idea,
i just recommend to not only look about pro and cons for the state of art,
but to look about the needs as well.
So a higher evolution model should be the reference, and we should search as
well for the off-gnutella 3 for pro and cons.
One pro would be:
+ able to upload a seed and then go ofline
+ dht environment
+ torrent like speed
+ seperation of blocks and urls-meaning, which makes it un-sueable
+ no IP adress attached along the off-magnet downloading, you do not see
other swarming peer IPs
+ offload client (as example client we could work on) has community feature
integrated over retroshare/retromessenger wx group f2f panels, for web of
trust
+ bootstrapping over off-urls and IP cache

Contra:
- Off-url has currently only the filename and hash in the url integrated
(maybe extendable off urls can be developed easilsy)
- once publsihed blocks cannot be taken down again (which is the same as in
gntuella seeded files)
- f2f needs to be implemented in the offload gui

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Arne Babenhauserheide
<[email protected]>wrote:

>
>
> Am Samstag, 27. Februar 2010 00:51:02 schrieb [email protected]<Raphael_Manfredi%40pobox.com>:
>
>
> > Anyway, I don't think Gnutella 3.0 should be a paradigm shift. We need to
> > focus on the strengths of Gnutella 1.0 and remove (some of) its
> weaknesses
> > so as to make it even more powerful.
> >
> > Gnutella 3.0, the Lord of P2P networks :-)
>
> Maybe we could start thinking about that by listing it's strengths and
> weaknesses of the currently existing Gnutella. Then we can check if we can
> fix
> the weaknesses without breaking existing servents and see what parts really
>
> need an invasive change.
>
> Best as a one-week brainstorm first (that means: free listing of perceived
> strength and weaknesses and no criticising of others opinions). A
> brainstorm
> often allows seeing factors which would be overlooked otherwise, because it
>
> improves free association (but please stay on topic: strength and
> weaknesses
> of Gnutella).
>
> Let me begin:
>
> + Strength: Requires very little bandwidth for global connectivity (a leaf
> can
> run off a 56k Modem, an UP off a ISDN line).
>
> + Strength: Powerful fully decentral swarming.
>
> - Weakness: No included community building (like torrent sites with
> statistcs
> and verification).
>
> Please add the strengths and weaknesses you see (in short) which weren't
> yet
> named.
>
> Best wishes,
> Arne
>
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