Re: Re: browsehost in new version
Michael Green <[email protected]> Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:45:35 +0100
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Joseph,
Out of curiousity, where are you obtaining the Gnutella specifications from?
At any rate, this sentence from the specs sums up your answer: "A
servent can request a file push by routing a Push request back to the
servent that sent the QueryHit message describing the target file.A
servent can request a file push by routing a Push request back to the
servent that sent the QueryHit message describing the target file."
Let's put that in laymen's terms:
Say that you found a file that interests you and wish to download it.
You try to connect to the remote peer, but it turns out that peer is
firewalled. You can't download it directly then. So now what?
Well, that remote peer *is* connected to the Gnutella network somehow,
otherwise you never got a QueryHit with all the matches for your Query.
What if we send a message back along the same route of the QueryHit?
That's what the "PUSH" message does.
You build a small "PUSH" message, containing some details about how
*your* peer can be contacted and which file you're interested in. This
message is sent to the immediately connected peer from whom you've
received the matching QueryHit (meaning, you're already connected to the
path this message should take, so no need to send "GNUTELLA CONNECT/0.6"
again!). This peer forwards it to the next one, etc., etc., until it
reaches the originator of the QueryHit. Think of a breadcrum trail - the
QueryHit serves as a breadcrum back to the originating peer, which a
Push message follows.
That originating peer sees the "PUSH" message and interprets it as "Hey,
I can't connect to you to download this file. Can you connect to me
instead and I'll grab it?". An outgoing connection to *your* peer is
then made and starts with a "GIV" (as in the opposite of HTTP's "GET").
This GIV will contain details for you to verify and to retrieve the file
you wish to download...
As you may expect, this would not work if both peers are firewalled (the
one who received can't connect to you either). In such case, the Push
message is ineffective. Most servents check their own connectivity and
will skip sending the Push message if they're firewalled. This is to
save unneccesary messages over the network. There are some other
extensions which do provide a means of two firewalled peers to download
the file anyway, but you should focus on the basics first.
Hopefully this will help a bit.
-- Mike
On 09/06/2010 03:35, josephversaceca wrote:
> Thanks Raphael,
>
> I have read more and believe I am coming to grasp push requests. Could you explain to me or give me an example of the message that I would send to the proxy to request a push? Also can I just send the push request or do I have to begin with the GNUTELLA CONNECT/0.6 first?
>
>
>
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<p>Joseph,<br>
<br>
Out of curiousity, where are you obtaining the Gnutella specifications from?<br>
<br>
At any rate, this sentence from the specs sums up your answer: "A <br>
servent can request a file push by routing a Push request back to the <br>
servent that sent the QueryHit message describing the target file.A <br>
servent can request a file push by routing a Push request back to the <br>
servent that sent the QueryHit message describing the target file."<br>
<br>
Let's put that in laymen's terms:<br>
<br>
Say that you found a file that interests you and wish to download it. <br>
You try to connect to the remote peer, but it turns out that peer is <br>
firewalled. You can't download it directly then. So now what?<br>
<br>
Well, that remote peer *is* connected to the Gnutella network somehow, <br>
otherwise you never got a QueryHit with all the matches for your Query. <br>
What if we send a message back along the same route of the QueryHit? <br>
That's what the "PUSH" message does.<br>
<br>
You build a small "PUSH" message, containing some details about how <br>
*your* peer can be contacted and which file you're interested in. This <br>
message is sent to the immediately connected peer from whom you've <br>
received the matching QueryHit (meaning, you're already connected to the <br>
path this message should take, so no need to send "GNUTELLA CONNECT/0.6" <br>
again!). This peer forwards it to the next one, etc., etc., until it <br>
reaches the originator of the QueryHit. Think of a breadcrum trail - the <br>
QueryHit serves as a breadcrum back to the originating peer, which a <br>
Push message follows.<br>
<br>
That originating peer sees the "PUSH" message and interprets it as "Hey, <br>
I can't connect to you to download this file. Can you connect to me <br>
instead and I'll grab it?". An outgoing connection to *your* peer is <br>
then made and starts with a "GIV" (as in the opposite of HTTP's "GET"). <br>
This GIV will contain details for you to verify and to retrieve the file <br>
you wish to download...<br>
<br>
As you may expect, this would not work if both peers are firewalled (the <br>
one who received can't connect to you either). In such case, the Push <br>
message is ineffective. Most servents check their own connectivity and <br>
will skip sending the Push message if they're firewalled. This is to <br>
save unneccesary messages over the network. There are some other <br>
extensions which do provide a means of two firewalled peers to download <br>
the file anyway, but you should focus on the basics first.<br>
<br>
Hopefully this will help a bit.<br>
<br>
-- Mike<br>
<br>
On 09/06/2010 03:35, josephversaceca wrote:<br>
> Thanks Raphael,<br>
><br>
> I have read more and believe I am coming to grasp push requests. Could you explain to me or give me an example of the message that I would send to the proxy to request a push? Also can I just send the push request or do I have to begin with the GNUTELLA CONNECT/0.6 first?<br>
><br>
><br>
> <br>
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font: 100%;
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color: #1E66AE;
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font-family: Verdana;
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color: #1E66AE;
font-weight: 700;
}
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color: #ff7900;
font-weight: 700;
}
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margin-bottom: 20px;
padding: 0px;
}
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font-size: 130%;
text-decoration: none;
}
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font-size: 77%;
list-style-type: square;
padding: 6px 0;
}
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margin: 0;
padding: 0 0 0 8px;
}
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font-family: Georgia;
}
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margin: 0 0 1em 0;
}
#ygrp-text tt {
font-size: 120%;
}
#ygrp-vital ul li:last-child {
border-right: none !important;
}
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