Re: Semi-Reliable UDP Layer
[email protected] Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:11:35 +0000 (UTC)
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--YJt2e7aU8TxvDNjs3CsO32WmeY29WrbvRrI3jH7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Quoting Michael Green <[email protected]> from ml.gnutella.dev-forum: :With today's overall reliability of Internet connections, that seems :unnecessary. Beware of the word "reliability" :-) IP packets do get dropped in case of traffic congestion. And this is likely to happen on the way out, from busy ADSL connections, or at the ISP level in case there are exceptional traffic peaks. The less IP has to fragment, the less chances the whole message will be lost. Therefore UDP/IP is "unreliable", which does not prevent most of the UDP traffic to come through, of course! Now everyone is taking care of not dropping packets unless it's absolutely necessary, due to the avalanche effect that occurs when every protocol on top of IP has to retransmit! That's probably what you meant by "reliability". Raphael --YJt2e7aU8TxvDNjs3CsO32WmeY29WrbvRrI3jH7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style="background-color: #fff;"> <span style="display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;"> <div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-text" > <p>Quoting Michael Green <<a href="mailto:myatus%40gmail.com">[email protected]</a>> from ml.gnutella.dev-forum:<br> :With today's overall reliability of Internet connections, that seems<br> :unnecessary.<br> <br> Beware of the word "reliability" :-)<br> <br> IP packets do get dropped in case of traffic congestion. And this is likely<br> to happen on the way out, from busy ADSL connections, or at the ISP level<br> in case there are exceptional traffic peaks. The less IP has to fragment,<br> the less chances the whole message will be lost.<br> <br> Therefore UDP/IP is "unreliable", which does not prevent most of the UDP<br> traffic to come through, of course!<br> <br> Now everyone is taking care of not dropping packets unless it's absolutely<br> necessary, due to the avalanche effect that occurs when every protocol on<br> top of IP has to retransmit!<br> <br> That's probably what you meant by "reliability".<br> <br> Raphael<br> </p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div id="ygrp-actbar" style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 10px; white-space: nowrap; color: #666; padding-top: 15px;"> <div> <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Semi-Reliable%20UDP%20Layer" style="margin-right: 0; padding-right: 0;"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">sender</span></a> | <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Semi-Reliable%20UDP%20Layer"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">group</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_gdf/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxcHZkZjBoBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2ODQyNTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDE2MDYxBG1zZ0lkAzIzODA0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTM0ODUxMDMwOQ--?act=reply&messageNum=23804">Reply <span style="font-weight: 700;">via web post</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_gdf/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJlZ2YzYjlmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2ODQyNTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDE2MDYxBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTM0ODUxMDMwOQ--" style="font-weight: 700;">Start a New Topic</a> </div> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_gdf/message/23800;_ylc=X3oDMTM2czQwYm0yBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2ODQyNTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDE2MDYxBG1zZ0lkAzIzODA0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTM0ODUxMDMwOQR0cGNJZAMyMzgwMA--">Messages in this topic</a> (<span style="font-weight: 700;">5</span>) </div> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #e0ecee; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inline;"> </ul> <div style="clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_gdf;_ylc=X3oDMTJlNzhkNXMxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2ODQyNTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDE2MDYxBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTM0ODUxMDMwOQ--" style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a> </div> </div> <div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJkMWdpODZnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2ODQyNTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDE2MDYxBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxMzQ4NTEwMzA5" style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/yg/logo/us.gif" height="15" width="137" alt="Yahoo! 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