Re: [discuss] Bittorrent

Bittorrent's tit-for-tat idea is a neat idea for large, popular files but I don't see how
you could realize something like that using HTTP without breaking the protocol. In
addition it does not really solve any problems. If a client basically wants to leech from
a network, there are a plenty of ways to do so despite tit-for-tat.

I don't think there is such a large part of the Azureus that can/needs to be merged with
LimeWire. The actual downloader/uploader is certainly interesting but it needs to be
compatible with LimeWire's bandwidth throttling, the file verifying, Java 1.1.8 etc, so it
looks very much like you would have to rewrite large parts of it.
The code parsing the torrents and communicating with trackers might be very helpful but in
general I'm not so fond of the Azureus code.

mfg
gregorio

Gordon Mohr (@ Bitzi) wrote:
> Azureus is a really nice program, and GPL, so (after considering due 
> politeness
> to its author(s) and community perceptions), it seems that large 
> portions could
> be merged with LimeWire (or vice versa).
> 
> I still think content-distribution nirvana will occur when there's a global
> DHT backed by HTTP sources and URN naming, but clearly that future still 
> has
> some simmering to arrive, and needs some novel throttling/feedback 
> mechanisms
> which can match the tracker/tit-for-tatness of BT.
> 
> Perhaps an official magnet attribute for pointing to a .torrent URI (or
> more generally, 'alternate location location' signifying the extra 
> indirection)
> is a good idea...?
> 
> - Gordon
> 
> Susheel M. Daswani wrote:
> 
>> Hi Gregorio,
>> Nothing is final yet but there is a good chance we'll be adding 
>> torrent file support to LimeWire in the near future.  We've been 
>> discussing/investigating the possiblity for a while now.  As much as 
>> we'd like to see magnets take off, torrents are the clear winner now 
>> and probably in the future.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Susheel
>>
>> Gregorio Roper wrote:
>>
>>> I just come back from trying Bittorrent (namely Azureus) and I must 
>>> say I'm a little impressed. I wouldn't go as far as suggesting a 
>>> Bittorrent plugin for LimeWire but some of  the Azureus/Bittorrent 
>>> features would certainly be nice to have.
>>>
>>> Azureus has the ability to share and download collecions of files or 
>>> complete folders. It also has UPnP support (completely in java). 
>>> Especially the ability of firewalled hosts to share partial files is 
>>> really neat, - since LimeWire is going to use UDP pushes anyway, what 
>>> would speak against adding push-proxy-alt-locs for firewalled hosts 
>>> to the download mesh?
>>>
>>> mfg
>>> gregorio


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