Re: Wikipedia article cleanup

On 20210707/20/21-1932, Jake D. Parsons wrote:
> On 19/07/2021 06:15, Zachary Lee Andrews wrote:
> > On Mon, 19 Jul 2021, [email protected] wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 01:56:20AM -0400, Zachary Lee Andrews wrote:
> > > > Hello gopher project!
> > > > 
> > > > If anyone here also participates in Wikipedia, I would
> > > > appreciate help in
> > > > tidying up the Gopher_(protocol) page there, it has some issues.
> > > > In particular the web clients section needs to be reconciled with
> > > > Template:Gopher_clients.
> > > > Also folks keep adding self promotions to their gemini and/or
> > > > gopher-only
> > > > clients to the web client section; maybe a table of native
> > > > gopher clients
> > > > could be added to the article to cut down on this.
> > > > 
> > > > Relevant URLs:
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_(protocol)
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gopher_(protocol)
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Gopher_clients
> > > > 
> > > > Best regards
> > > > -- 
> > > >  Zachary Lee Andrews
> > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > 
> > > > p.s.
> > > > Does K-meleon actually support gopher? I think it's broken.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Why bother writing something that will be removed, edited, and
> > > twisted on a whim to fit various random persons' agendas?
> > > 
> > > The fact that you need help just to publish good information on
> > > there speaks volumes about Wikipedia.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > TL;DR: You don't want to contribute anything of value to wikipedia, or
> > this mailing list. Got it. Well played sir.
> > 
> 
> That is not what he said. He said, in my own words, it is a waste of time
> and energy to add things too Wikipedia that are subject to editing from
> propagandists for their own political agendas instead of adding value too
> Wikipedia. Nothing was mentioned about the mailing list.

pub   RSA 4096/9C8D55BA 2020-03-14 Jake D. Parsons <jakedp-VwIFZPTo/[email protected]>
> sub   RSA 4096/6C2EF1B9 2020-03-14
> 

I appreciate the support, Jake. :)

Zachary was simply lashing out at me when he called my questioning of why anyone would contribute to Wikipedia a waste. I can't say I blame him. He's going through the absolutely unfair nonsense that is Wikipedia bureaucracy, rules, and "trusted" sources. This situation is currently a ....show that spans IRC, Wikipedia, and now this mailing list (according to the talk page).

His initial message was a call to arms in an edit war on there that's currently a stalemate containing a dubious nonstandard selector (as far as I can tell). I don't doubt he's on the right side of reality, but reality hardly matters to Wikipedia. It's all about whom the mods favor.

I would encourage people to confine this situation to the Gopher talk page on Wikipedia (it's hard for it to get much worse) as it is more relevant/useful to the edit war there, but I'm only one vote.