Re: Gopher over TLS

It was thus said that the Great Mateusz Viste once stated:
> On 06/12/2021 07:38, Sean Conner wrote:
> >   It's happening again.  There's a gopher client (or proxy) that is
> >attempting to request a page from my gopher site via TLS, *then* regular
> >TCP.  I still don't think TLS is a viable option for TLS [1] but hey,
> >differing opinions and all that.  I just think that if any client wants to
> >use TLS over gopher, follow the above advice.  Thank you.
> 
> Gopher over TLS is a silly idea in the first place. What you describe 
> seems to be a gopher client/proxy attempting TLS over the standard 
> gopher port (70) - is that correct? 

  Yes, that is correct.

> If so, then we're beyond silly, that 
> is plain stupid territory.

  My opinion as well.

> I hear about this gopher/TLS abomination since many years now. Haven't 
> those TLS-people figured out a non-intrusive way to do their thing by 
> now without bothering standard-gopher-people? ie. some DNS SRV record, 
> or special URL marking, or CAPS capability, or custom port, or something 
> else?

  It's not that easy---I wrote about this a few years ago [1] and relatively
recently [2], which briefly goes into how I think people expect this to
work.

  -spc

[1]	http://boston.conman.org/2019/03/31.1

[2]	http://boston.conman.org/2021/09/28.1