Re: OT: OT: Packet Radio ML (was: rude behaviour (was: Re: Is this list still going?))

Brian Koontz <[email protected]> Fri, 14 Nov 2025 11:58:28 -0600
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Well, sorta kinda=E2=80=A6groups.io:

https://groups.io/g/tarpn/topics

> On Nov 14, 2025, at 11:43=E2=80=AFAM, philmacfly <philmacfly@binary-kitche=
n.de> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFThere is a packet radio ml?
>=20
>> Am 14.11.2025 um 18:24 schrieb Brian Koontz:
>> Cat, you can always start your own gopher discussion on discord or wherev=
er you think traction can be gained. I don=E2=80=99t think anyone here would=
 oppose that.
>>=20
>> But in the end, just about every esoteric mailing list I subscribe to (go=
pher, pdp-11, packet radio, diy efi, vintage jaguar, etc.) is catacomb-silen=
t, with occasional bursts of static. I don=E2=80=99t think it=E2=80=99s a go=
pher problem. Most of the world doesn=E2=80=99t share our enthusiasm for ecl=
ectic topics like gopher. And tbh I sort of like it that way.
>>=20
>>>> On Nov 14, 2025, at 7:15=E2=80=AFAM, cat K. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BFI am interested in the topic and I do talk about Gopher incessa=
ntly, to anyone that will listen, and then they say; "wow! Gopher sounds gre=
at, is there anywhere people are discussing Gopher such as a mailing list or=
 similar?"
>>>=20
>>> and I point them to the Tombs of the Blind Dead that is the gopher-proje=
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> mailing list an=
d womp womp they completely lose interest because all they find is curmudgeo=
ns and dust bunnies.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> regards
>>>=20
>>> =E2=96=88=E2=96=84=E2=96=80=E2=96=84=E2=96=80  cat K.
>>> =E2=96=88=E2=96=80=E2=96=84=E2=96=80=E2=96=84  B 4 U D W 3 R K 5 _
>>> =E2=96=84=E2=96=84=E2=96=80=E2=96=80=E2=96=80  +1 (929) 601-BAUD
>>>=20
>>>> On 14 Nov 2025, at 9:19=E2=80=AFPM, Nuno Silva <[email protected]> w=
rote:
>>>>=20
>>>>> On 2025-11-14, cat K. wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On 14 Nov 2025, at 12:29=E2=80=AFPM, John Goerzen
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 14 2025, cat K. wrote:
>>>>>>> have been, who wrote, past tense. this topic is the only traffic the=
 list has
>>>>>>> seen since April. I get info and updates by carrier pigeon more freq=
uently.
>>>>>> You are welcome to unsubscribe if you don't like this list.
>>>>> and miss out on scintilating conversations like this? no thanks!
>>>> Maybe you should.
>>>>=20
>>>> Either you're interested in the topic and talk about it, or just leave
>>>> us be.
>>>>=20
>>>> If you prefer TikTok and OnlyFans, go talk about Gopher there. Don't tr=
y
>>>> to bully everyone else in discussing gopher like you use these two.
>>>>=20
>>>> If we wanted to go at it like in TikTok, my guess is we'd be in TikTok.=

>>>>=20
>>>> I was even under the impression TikTok was mostly a video-centric
>>>> outfit, which really isn't comparable to text in accessibility...
>>>>=20
>>>> But, on that, the non-endless-scroll and the non-real-time nature of
>>>> e-mail are also selling points of a mailing list for those who
>>>> appreciate this medium.
>>>>=20
>>>> If you don't appreciate the medium, don't try to turn this into a
>>>> barrage of video, emojis and embedded animated images that aren't
>>>> actually GIF despite being called that. Instead, understand that others=

>>>> do prefer this text-centric medium and the on-topic nature of a
>>>> low-traffic list.
>>>>=20
>>>> --
>>>> Nuno Silva
>>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Wel=
l, sorta kinda=E2=80=A6groups.io:</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/tarpn/topics">https://groups.io/g/tarpn=
/topics</a></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Nov 14, 2=
025, at 11:43=E2=80=AFAM, philmacfly &lt;philmacfly-1eBo6Eg+E38e20/[email protected]&gt; wr=
ote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=
=BB=BF<span>There is a packet radio ml?</span><br><span></span><br><span>Am 1=
4.11.2025 um 18:24 schrieb Brian Koontz:</span><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><span>Cat, you can always start your own gopher discussion on discord or wh=
erever you think traction can be gained. I don=E2=80=99t think anyone here w=
ould oppose that.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></s=
pan><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>But in the end, just ab=
out every esoteric mailing list I subscribe to (gopher, pdp-11, packet radio=
, diy efi, vintage jaguar, etc.) is catacomb-silent, with occasional bursts o=
f static. I don=E2=80=99t think it=E2=80=99s a gopher problem. Most of the w=
orld doesn=E2=80=99t share our enthusiasm for eclectic topics like gopher. A=
nd tbh I sort of like it that way.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><span>On Nov 14, 2025, at 7:15=E2=80=AFAM, cat K. &lt;cat@b4udw=
3rk5.com&gt; wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=EF=BB=BFI am inter=
ested in the topic and I do talk about Gopher incessantly, to anyone that wi=
ll listen, and then they say; "wow! Gopher sounds great, is there anywhere p=
eople are discussing Gopher such as a mailing list or similar?"</span><br></=
blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><span>and I point them to the Tombs of the Blind Dead tha=
t is the [email protected] &lt;mailto:gopher-project-2H2hN8V1XRvRv0WFA/[email protected]=
ian.org&gt; mailing list and womp womp they completely lose interest because=
 all they find is curmudgeons and dust bunnies.</span><br></blockquote></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br=
></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><span>regards</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquot=
e></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=E2=
=96=88=E2=96=84=E2=96=80=E2=96=84=E2=96=80 &nbsp;cat K.</span><br></blockquo=
te></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=E2=
=96=88=E2=96=80=E2=96=84=E2=96=80=E2=96=84 &nbsp;B 4 U D W 3 R K 5 _</span><=
br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><span>=E2=96=84=E2=96=84=E2=96=80=E2=96=80=E2=96=80 &nbsp;+1 (929) 601-=
BAUD</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>On 14 No=
v 2025, at 9:19=E2=80=AFPM, Nuno Silva &lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:<=
/span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockq=
uote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>On 2025-11-=
14, cat K. wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><=
/blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>On 14 Nov 2025, a=
t 12:29=E2=80=AFPM, John Goerzen</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></block=
quote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>&lt;[email protected]=
rg&gt; wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>On Fri, Nov 14 2=
025, cat K. wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockq=
uote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><span>have been, who wrote, past tense. this topic is t=
he only traffic the list has</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquot=
e></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>seen since April. I get i=
nfo and updates by carrier pigeon more frequently.</span><br></blockquote></=
blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>You are welcome to unsubscrib=
e if you don't like this list.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockqu=
ote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>and miss out=
 on scintilating conversations like this? no thanks!</span><br></blockquote>=
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Maybe you should.</span><br><=
/blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></block=
quote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><span>Either you're interested in the topic and talk ab=
out it, or just leave</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><sp=
an>us be.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br>=
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>If you prefer TikTok and Only=
Fans, go talk about Gopher there. Don't try</span><br></blockquote></blockqu=
ote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><span>to bully everyone else in discussing gopher like yo=
u use these two.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></=
span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>If we wanted to go a=
t it like in TikTok, my guess is we'd be in TikTok.</span><br></blockquote><=
/blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></bloc=
kquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>I was even under the impression TikTok was mostly a video-centr=
ic</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>outfit, which re=
ally isn't comparable to text in accessibility...</span><br></blockquote></b=
lockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockq=
uote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>But, on that, the non-endless-scroll and the non-real-time natu=
re of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>e-mail are al=
so selling points of a mailing list for those who</span><br></blockquote></b=
lockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>appreciate this medium.</span><br></blockquot=
e></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><span>If you don't appreciate the medium, don't try to turn this=
 into a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>barrage of v=
ideo, emojis and embedded animated images that aren't</span><br></blockquote=
></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>actually GIF despite being called that. I=
nstead, understand that others</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><span>do prefer this text-centric medium and the on-topic nature of a<=
/span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>low-traffic list.</=
span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockqu=
ote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote></blockquote=
></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><span>Nuno Silva</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></block=
quote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><span></span>=
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