Re: Cannot run BitTorrent client

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 00:57:45 -0400
Kevin Williams <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks a lot again for your help.
> 
> Thanks for your advice on the need to use the router's firewall for
> security. I would try and set it up. It's just that, I'm lazy and
> don't want to use that tedious interface my router provides. :-)

Do You mine, Interface musst be nice to give a Reliability. The best
Programs are the Console Programs. All GUI, with Guarddog, only use
console. Guarddog works on Kernel 2.4 iptables and Kernel 2.2 ipchains.

My Colegge, which is a Programmer and Internet Provider, told do me.
Why use You Software Firewall (Guarddog, I have tried many other
Software Firewall), the Hardware Firewall of Yours Router is a Castle
with a small Windows for Acess from Abroad (Internet).
 
> Even the latest version of Azures used with the latest version of
> java results in Azures using much more memory and cpu compared to
> uTorrent. I have come across several articles on the web which
> compare uTorrent and Azures. They all have one thing in common in
> their statistics. The cpu resources used by uTorrent is less than 50%
> of that used by Azures. The memory used by uTorrent is approximately
> one tenth of that used by Azures. That is quite a difference. Like I
> mentioned before, I can play UT2004 while uTorrent is running in the
> background seeding and downloading several torrents. It's impossible
> to do that with Azures as, UT2004 would take a long time to load and
> the gameplay is really hitchy. Infact, UT2004 simply cannot be played
> while Azures is working.

I start allways ksysguard to control Resource and use free, top...

For my System Azureus don't use CPU, only Java does this. The Memory
consum is't big Problem for me.

All Right. At which way You use start uTorrent in Linux? It's a Windows
Program. I will try it.

> For whatever maybe, "java -version" on my machine gives the following:
> 
> java version "1.5.0_09"
> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_09-b03)
> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_09-b03, mixed mode, sharing)

This is't the latest Version of Java, this is a little bit old. Please
install newest from Sun.

> >> I hope that I help You a little bit.
> 
> Ofcourse, you have been very helpful and I really appreciate it. 
> 
> >> Sory for my bad English.
> 
> No problems at all. :-)
> 
> Thanks again and have a good day.
> 
> Kevin

I am glade to correspond with You.

I wish You good trip with UT2004.

Thanks too and have a nice time.

Duško
 
> On July 15, 2007 13:38:57 Rusmir Duško wrote:
> > On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 12:28:50 -0400
> >
> > Kevin Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Thanks a lot, Rusmur, for your response. I really appreciate it.
> > >
> > > > You must give Bittorent Client as to other Programs perhaps more
> > > > Ports.
> > > >
> > > > For Communications a Port, for You, 36487 (TCP and UDP)!
> > > >
> > > > For DHT, not same as above a Port (UDP).
> > > >
> > > > For Tracker, not same as above a Port for HTTP and or HTTPS
> > > > (UDP).
> > >
> > > uTorrent uses only one tcp port for all its work. Yes, it does
> > > use a UDP port for DHT which, I didn't open in the firewall.
> > > Thanks very much for your insight.
> > >
> > > > Don't forget to give same Ports in Yours Hardware Firewall
> > > > (Router, Kabel Modem and so on). Perhaps Hardware Firewall
> > > > blocks.
> > >
> > > I've configured my router to put my laptop in a DMZ allowing all
> > > ports to be allowed and thus the firewall controls the opening of
> > > ports....
> >
> > That's wrong. You must controll with Guarddog Yours Laptop! All port
> > must be closed and only what You need should be enabled. This is
> > strongly recommended.
> >
> > Also You should enable Hardware Firewall of Yours Router, this is
> > better. Only You should tune twice the Ports, that is not a  big
> > Problem and give You the double Security. That's great.
> >
> > > > Try Azureus, is very good Program.
> > >
> > > Yes, I agree. But, compared to uTorrent, the memory Azures uses is
> > > too much. I needed a torrent client with a very small memory
> > > footprint and yet be full of features. uTorrent does that job very
> > > well. I can leave uTorrent running in the background and load
> > > UT2004 and play on ! :-)  This is something not possible with
> > > Azures as it takes up lotz of resources.
> >
> > You should use Asureus the last Version 2.5.0.4 or 3.0.1.6.
> > Previosly Version have Problems with Memory.
> >
> > I use Azureus_2.5.0.4_linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 because I have AMD 64
> > CPU.
> >
> > Which Java You use?
> >
> > java -version
> > java version "1.6.0_01"
> > Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_01-b06)
> > Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0_01-b06, mixed mode)
> >
> > > I still one question unanswered:
> > > > > There's one more thing I'm trying to understand. On the
> > > > > Protocols tab, there is a list of protocols and a list of
> > > > > zones. Now, if I select internet zone and check uTorrent to
> > > > > be allowed, what happens here ? Are  we talking about IN
> > > > > packets from internet to local or the other way here ?
> > >
> > > I would appreciate if it could be answered.
> >
> > Do You mean in Local and Internet Zone
> >
> > /File Transfer/ BitTorrent Peer -> Port 6881-6889
> > /File Transfer/ BitTorrent Tracker -> Port 6969
> >
> > If You use higher Ports for Peer (I use between 49152 and 65535) You
> > don't need to enable 6881-6889. The Guarddog should not enable Ports
> > that is't needed.
> >
> > You could try to use a higher Port for
> >
> > Tracker (was 6969)
> > DHT Scrapper (was 6685) too.
> >
> > > > > Lastly, a comment on the guarddog's working. The documentation
> > > > > says, guarddog need not be run each time the system is booted
> > > > > into. But, I didn't see any startup links being created in
> > > > > any of the run levels nor any modifications done to any of
> > > > > the existing scripts. Apologize, if I missed something
> > > > > somewhere. But, after configuring guarddog and rebooting I
> > > > > found that iptables were clear and thus guarddog's iptables
> > > > > were not loaded. To circumvent this problem, I'd to create a
> > > > > link to /etc/rc/firewall in the required runlevels. I think,
> > > > > the documentation should stress this fact. Oh ! BTW I'm using
> > > > > BLFS system.
> > >
> > > That was a comment I made on the documentation lacking the
> > > necessity to configure the system to start the firewall script
> > > automatically on each boot. Nothing critical.
> > >
> > > Thanks again for you help.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Kevin
> >
> > I hope that I help You a little bit. Sory for my bad English.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Duško
> >
> > > On July 15, 2007 06:39:32 Rusmir Duško wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 22:20:25 -0400
> > > >
> > > > Kevin Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > I have configured guarddog to allow the bittorrent client
> > > > > (uTorrent) to use the port 36487. For that I've created a
> > > > > protocol called 'uTorrent' in the advanced tab with tcp port
> > > > > 36487 and in the Protocols tab I've checked the box for
> > > > > uTorrent both in the local and internet zones.
> > > >
> > > > That's is good.
> > > >
> > > > > This setup seems to work to some extent but at times it
> > > > > doesn't work. The only way to get it to work is to clear the
> > > > > iptables and wait for uTorrent to establish connections and
> > > > > then enable the firewall again. After that uTorrent works but
> > > > > not satisfactorily. In the system log I can see lots of
> > > > > packets being either dropped or aborted. This is true for
> > > > > both IN and OUT packets.
> > > >
> > > > That's normal, if You have activated a Filter, for Azureus
> > > > SafePeer, a very long List of IP Adress is blocked.
> > > >
> > > > > So, the question obviously is how do I set up uTorrent to
> > > > > accept all incoming connections on port 36487 and be able to
> > > > > make outgoing connections on any port and to any ip ?
> > > >
> > > > You must give Bittorent Client as to other Programs perhaps more
> > > > Ports.
> > > >
> > > > For Communications a Port, for You, 36487 (TCP and UDP)!
> > > >
> > > > For DHT, not same as above a Port (UDP).
> > > >
> > > > For Tracker, not same as above a Port for HTTP and or HTTPS
> > > > (UDP).
> > > >
> > > > Don't forget to give same Ports in Yours Hardware Firewall
> > > > (Router, Kabel Modem and so on). Perhaps Hardware Firewall
> > > > blocks.
> > > >
> > > > Try Azureus, is very good Program.
> > > >
> > > > > Prior to using guarddog, I'd setup iptables (custom script)
> > > > > the way I wanted to and it was working great. Now, it seems
> > > > > that guarddog's script somehow filters the packets and
> > > > > doesn't let thru' all the packets.
> > > > >
> > > > > There's one more thing I'm trying to understand. On the
> > > > > Protocols tab, there is a list of protocols and a list of
> > > > > zones. Now, if I select internet zone and check uTorrent to
> > > > > be allowed, what happens here ? Are  we talking about IN
> > > > > packets from internet to local or the other way here ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Lastly, a comment on the guarddog's working. The documentation
> > > > > says, guarddog need not be run each time the system is booted
> > > > > into. But, I didn't see any startup links being created in
> > > > > any of the run levels nor any modifications done to any of
> > > > > the existing scripts. Apologize, if I missed something
> > > > > somewhere. But, after configuring guarddog and rebooting I
> > > > > found that iptables were clear and thus guarddog's iptables
> > > > > were not loaded. To circumvent this problem, I'd to create a
> > > > > link to /etc/rc/firewall in the required runlevels. I think,
> > > > > the documentation should stress this fact. Oh ! BTW I'm using
> > > > > BLFS system.
> > > >
> > > > Guardog only create a Script > /etc/rc.firewall and start it and
> > > > needed modules.
> > > >
> > > > You must create script Rule (I use Gentoo)
> > > >
> > > >  /etc/conf.d/local.start
> > > >
> > > > 	/etc/rc.firewall
> > > >
> > > > to start Guarddog at each boot.
> > > >
> > > > Also You must mount compiled Kernel Modules for networking with
> > > > modprobe or a Script
> > > >
> > > > /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6
> > > >
> > > > or a other way.
> > > >
> > > > I have say after create a Srcipt with Guarddog
> > > >
> > > > iptables-save
> > > >
> > > > And at each boot my Kernel load needed Modules.
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks for any help, I'd really appreciate it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > > I am glad to help You.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > >
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