Re: *** VOTE *** Permlink of cookies

Hi

Most that know me or even who have chatted with me on blitzed know I am
one of the most laid back people around. I always try and respond to
anything as fast as I can. I am the first to admit however, that I am not
any technical genious. Im going to school for environmental biology, not
computer science. Programming is not my cup of tea, I sometimes do not
understand things that you consider easy or obvious. That being said, when
asked to fix the bopm I was not rude, I responded swiftly and I tried my
best. It turned out to be an extra line in the bopm.conf that I was
suppost to have erased knowing that it was just there for extra
explaination, I did not know that. If people found me "stubbern" because I
did not understand, sobeit.

I knew when I linked that some would have previous issues with me, I do
not even remember 80% of them. They go back several years and my memory is
good for perhaps yesterday. I never live in the past, and I try and move
on with things. I know when to not bring something up to stir things up
from the past and bring out anything that I may not realize is a touchy
issue, so I do not talk about such things.. and I especially just dont
initiate conversations about them.

I wanted to link to blitzed because of the people here, many I consider
good friends. Blitzed is a very proactive network, and its a good
environment to participate in. I may not have been seen as trying to
'contribute' to some, but every time I suggested something it was met by
silence and no response. So it has not been for lack of trying.

I know I am treated like the kid thats over there alone, and shouldnt be
talked to. But I believe that before people start making assumptions about
me they actually chat with me. The only admins to have said a word to me
since testlink have been crazyspence and dg, and both not really to ask me
much about the server or such. I can either be part of the team or I can
be deligated to 'that guy who was lucky' and only be a ghost of an admin
that chats in one channel that happens to be local to him. I really do not
want to be that kind of admin, but I gather that is the feeling from a few
admins here.

It would have been nice to have been asked to contribute further, or even
to have a good chat with a couple of you for ideas on the network. I know
dg had asked me to be part of the exploits team, and I am very thankful
for that. I wish I was technically minded enough to be able to be of much
help there, but alas I am not.

Im not sure what my point is myself, other than I wish some of you would
just chat with me about whatever before passing judgement on me. Whatever
happens I believe that those who I actually have been in contact to will
keep in touch, I'll be around :)

toodles
andy


On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Andy Smith wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 04:25:01PM +0200, Mark Bergsma wrote:
> > - I found the admin quite difficult to work with. In the few times I
> > talked him through the link process, or asked him to change some minor
> > config thing in his ircd.conf / bopm.conf / routing client setup he was
> > rather stubborn, and hard to convince, even when he was clearly wrong. I
> > heard similar things from Andy.
>
> It is quite widely known that I had a problem with this admin
> based on his behaviour back on Xnet and some disparaging comments
> regarding Blitzed that he made to people intending to link here
> before he became interested in linking here himself.
>
> Unfortunately this was not considered by the routing team as grounds
> to reject the link application over a month ago, and a chance was
> given in the form of a test link.
>
> I had expected Fraggle to take advantage of this chance in order to
> make some attempt to explain to us his previous behaviour and sudden
> change of heart, but none has been forthcoming to me, nor apparently
> to anyone else who has brought up the matter with him.  So none of
> those old concerns have been satisfied and on the strength of those
> alone I strongly urge the delink of this server.
>
> Not wishing to let my own personal feelings get in the way of the
> correct running of the network, I did make one attempt to talk with
> Fraggle about a mistake in his bopm.conf.  This turned into an
> extremely irritating exchange of 5 or so emails over what was an
> obvious and trivial mistake on Fraggle's part, which ended with an
> incorrect accusation by him that it was a problem with our default
> settings.  I don't want to have to put up with that every time there
> is a problem.  This is the "similar things from Andy" that Mark is
> referring to above.
>
> Anyone now thinking "I haven't experienced this" should first ask
> themselves if they have actually had cause during this testlink to
> correct Fraggle on anything.  This is my impression from doing so,
> and it agrees with Mark's impression from doing so.  If you have not
> done so, you won't have an impression, and you'll have to decide
> whether to believe those of us that have.  If you are unsure then
> please remember that "abstain" is legal on this vote.
>
> I have nothing more to add except to agree with everything Mark has
> said in his email.
>